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Decided to create a document dedicated to figuring out Daima's scaling. I go over my findings and just straight up included a Strength Checker in the latter half of the document. Peruse at your leisure. Daima Scaling Guide + Strength Checker

The Super Dragon Balls are said to have limitless power. Even if for some reason, Zeno is immune, it shouldn't have stopped him from trying. Super Shen Long could have just said, "That's the one thing I can't do" and Zamasu could have tried something else. I mean, for Pete's sake, if the...

Well, Baby on the grounds he isn't a complete fuckin' idiot. Don't get me wrong, I like Goku Black's personality a lot, but Dragon Ball Super's world building makes Zamasu's plan completely idiotic. You have a time ring that allows you to make as many wishes as you want on omnipotent mcguffins...

Beast Gohan wishes he was that cool.

More so the multiple third eyes The concept of a red herring exists you know.

Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta's look is dope as Hell. It's also great that Vegeta actually gets a unique hairstyle for once. Him and SS4 Vegeta are the only forms that get a unique hair style.

So apparently Goku achieved Super Saiyan 4 on his own without Neva's help once, but he couldn't control or maintain it. Neva's magic helped Goku to be able to ascend permanently. So much for being in continuity with Super, ay lmao.

The whole point of the wish was to make them weaker than when they fought Boo. Gomah and Degesu don't even understand Ki let alone have the ability to sense it. They cannot comment on how strong Evil Boo, SS3 Gotenks, and Ultimate Gohan are relative to Goku and Pure Boo. Gomah is also not...

Base Vegeta > Mini Super Saiyan 4 Goku damn, they got WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY weaker

It's obvious Glorio turned everyone back into adults

It's unclear if this even is Super Saiyan 4 proper. I like to think this is an incarnation of the Golden Oozaru's power akin to Broli's wrathful state given Neva's magic would have just otherwise skipped over that step. GT Super Saiyan 4 turns Goku back into an adult despite Mr. Popo saying that...

Oh believe me, I'm aware of Scotty's M.O., lol.

Naw, the edit is better. I'm genuinely baffled by what Nakatsuru and Toriyama decided on with the final design.

"Reactions are sadly the same as usual here too though..." This wasn't really necessary then. Let's not pretend this isn't passive aggressive.

You'll have to forgive us for having standards. This take on Super Saiyan 4 lacks all thematic and narrative weight the original had. It's another modern asspull power up that doesn't understand what made the original incarnation good. To all the people glazing it and bein' all like "You hate...

You're gonna end up with egg on your face when a Super arc confirms Daima happened.

Frankly I don't think we'll see an adult version until a later Super arc. There's no way Super Saiyan 4's popularity will let it remain a Daima exclusive.

On the topic of power scaling and lore.

There's a better case for that with Piccolo and Glorio being able to briefly withstand an attack. Honestly, the logic of this show is straight fucked.