17-18 Gap

[KyuubiAhri]

what is the gap between these two twins.Daizenshuu sais that 18 is suppressed compared to 17 and the suppression would be poinltess if its just by 7-10%.

18-133
17/150
could this work for example?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Piccolo: 105
17: 100
Weighted Piccolo: 94
18: 90

 

[Fantastische Hure]

In my opinion it's 10%. They are both constantly grouped together for the most part and there doesn't seem to be much that points the other way, other than maybe #17's fight with Piccolo in which #18 was nonchalant even-though Piccolo was fighting evenly with #17.

 

[Zippy]

10-15 percentz

 

[KyuubiAhri]

10-15 percentz

I just happen to press that spoiler of yours.Very scary

 

[KyuubiAhri]

In my opinion it's 10%. They are both constantly grouped together for the most part and there doesn't seem to be much that points the other way, other than maybe #17's fight with Piccolo in which #18 was nonchalant even-though Piccolo was fighting evenly with #17.

We have daizenshuu saying that 18 is suppressed compared to 17 and 17 says that no power rivals his own (could be just arrogance but still)
16 does in fact say that weighted piccolo rivals both 17 and 18 but it could work like this.

18-133
Piccolo(weighted)-140
17-150


18 rivals piccolo from inferior position and 17 from superior position

 

[Zippy]

10-15 percentz

I just happen to press that spoiler of yours.Very scary

gg fam

 

[Fantastische Hure]

In my opinion it's 10%. They are both constantly grouped together for the most part and there doesn't seem to be much that points the other way, other than maybe #17's fight with Piccolo in which #18 was nonchalant even-though Piccolo was fighting evenly with #17.

We have daizenshuu saying that 18 is suppressed compared to 17 and 17 says that no power rivals his own (could be just arrogance but still)
16 does in fact say that weighted piccolo rivals both 17 and 18 but it could work like this.

18-133
Piccolo(weighted)-140
17-150


18 rivals piccolo from inferior position and 17 from superior position

It could be, but I take it to mean Piccolo's just rivalling both of them. Since Android #16 didn't say his power surpassed #18.

Also #18's power being suppressed compared to #18 comes from the manga itself actually. It's from a special page.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

In my opinion it's 10%. They are both constantly grouped together for the most part and there doesn't seem to be much that points the other way, other than maybe #17's fight with Piccolo in which #18 was nonchalant even-though Piccolo was fighting evenly with #17.

We have daizenshuu saying that 18 is suppressed compared to 17 and 17 says that no power rivals his own (could be just arrogance but still)
16 does in fact say that weighted piccolo rivals both 17 and 18 but it could work like this.

18-133
Piccolo(weighted)-140
17-150


18 rivals piccolo from inferior position and 17 from superior position

It could be, but I take it to mean Piccolo's just rivalling both of them. Since Android #16 didn't say his power surpassed #18.

Also #18's power being suppressed compared to #18 comes from the manga itself actually. It's from a special page.

yes its in the manga.
still the suppression has got to be at least bigger than 10%.It would be stupid for gero to suppress 18 by just that

 

[Pyro]

I think 15% is fine.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

We have daizenshuu saying that 18 is suppressed compared to 17 and 17 says that no power rivals his own (could be just arrogance but still)
16 does in fact say that weighted piccolo rivals both 17 and 18 but it could work like this.

18-133
Piccolo(weighted)-140
17-150


18 rivals piccolo from inferior position and 17 from superior position

It could be, but I take it to mean Piccolo's just rivalling both of them. Since Android #16 didn't say his power surpassed #18.

Also #18's power being suppressed compared to #18 comes from the manga itself actually. It's from a special page.

yes its in the manga.
still the suppression has got to be at least bigger than 10%.It would be stupid for gero to suppress 18 by just that

I don't have a problem with #17 maybe being significantly stronger than #18, if you want that. I just keep it a 10% difference, since outside of that page nothing-else seems to hint at a significant difference in power,

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Lately, i give Vegeta/Eighteen a small gap, so i have...

Eighteen- 70
Seventeen- 80
Weighted Piccolo- 75
Unweighted Piccolo- 84
Ginger Cell- 65
SSJ Vegeta- 63

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I see it being around 10-15% at the most.

 

[Void]

10-15% seems fair to me as well.

 

[Tapion]

10-15 percentz

I just happen to press that spoiler of yours.Very scary

What's in his spoiler? Curiosity is powering up too much not to sense it right now, but i don't want to be jumpscarediz.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

The noise scared me before I could even see what the hell it was. If you have earphones and want to test it, prepare your anus

 

[Pyro]

The problem is, again, the limitations placed on how big the gaps can be due to the future androids and Piccolo merging with Kami. If you believe the merger is only a 2x boost, then you won't have very much leeway with Piccolo (pre-Kami), the Super Saiyans, Ginger Cell, and 18 & 17.

 

[Jerk Store]

20% max

 

[p123]

Yea I generally go with a 10% gap as well although 15% should be fine.

Plot twist, I don't think Future 18 has to be weaker than Future 17.

 

[Pyro]

I was going to bring that up but thought meh. I've seen some claim 18 and 17 are equals in the future, but what's the reason for that? Simplicity?