#21 vs SSJ-Blue Goku & SSJ-Blue Vegeta & Golden-Fresza

[Fantastische Hure]

All FnF saga incarnations.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Either of the SSB tiers stomps on their own. #21's best feats, regardless of her form, only place her above U6 Arc SSJ Goku. You could argue her Good and Evil selves at the end of the #21 Arc to be above SS3 Goku based on using the Genki-Dama, but I find that weak evidence when prior in the arc she was having some trouble with Cell despite #16, #17 and #18's help.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Didn't Vegeta at some-point say he couldn't have defeated her even if he had his full-power at his disposal?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It was the opposite. He stated he'd oneshot her if he were able to use his full power.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

It was the opposite. He stated he'd oneshot her if he were able to use his full power.

IIRC, there were like three different scenarios. In the third one (I think), Vegeta said he couldn't have.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

In the third one (I think), Vegeta said he couldn't have.

He doesn't. The only real comments he makes regarding her in the #21 Arc are her regeneration essentially making her "another Boo" and being shocked the Genki-Dama wasn't enough to kill her.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The wikia says so, though. I know it's the DragonBall wikia and a-lot of times is wrong but I think I also saw a video of that on YouTube. In-fact the wikia says both Goku and Vegeta had access to their full-powers. This is after she absorbed Cell as Evil #21, btw is the Japanese original dialouge different.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

In-fact the wikia says both Goku and Vegeta had access to their full-powers.

"Their full power" in that context refers to the full power of their SSJ forms, as the power of all the characters were nearly equalised due to the magnetic waves #21 utilised in the earlier chapters of the game, something reiterated quite a few times by Bulma, Nappa and Yamcha.

btw is the Japanese original dialouge different.

Not to my knowledge.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

OK. That clears it up. Thank you. Although it's still weird why he'd say full-power if it was not even his real full-power but just a lower form.