3rd form Freeza (RF) vs. Super Saiyan Gotenks

[Six Trails]

Gotenks is post-RoSaT. Who wins?

 

[Zippy]

Ill make a booty pulled guess and say Frieza because of new m1aterial's overly boosted powers.

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

Frieza takes this

Final Form Frieza = Super Vegetto > Base Vegetto > SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ2 Gotenks > 3rd Form Frieza > SSJ Gotenks > 2nd Form Frieza > First Form Frieza > Base Gotenks

 

[SIAD]

As we saw in the movies, he says he felt Gohan Frieza First Form, Ki greater sense so far. Do not forget that the Ki of gods can not be felt by beings Gods, then far greater sense Ki was previously Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) or SSJ Goku (combined energies). While we know Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged) must be> = Vegetto SSJ3 (BoG), we can say that your first form Freezer crushes. Okay so we saw BoG DBS will be very difficult to have Frieza First Form> Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged), because the latter "forced" to Bills to use their 10% (although you may not need such power to defeat Vegeta). We must also bear in mind that Goku / Vegeta (BoG DBS) are >>>>> Goku / Vegeta (BoG), considering that Vegeta SSJ2 (BoG DBS) is at least> Mystic Gohan, for while BoG, Goku SSJ3 still is less than Gotenks SSJ BoG). Therefore Vegetto (BoG DBS) is >>>>> Vegetto (BOG). Anyway we have to wait to get to that chapter in DBS.

 

[SuperGogeta]

Third Form Freeza (RoF) is somewhere between SSj Vegetto and SSj2 Vegetto , so Even SSj3 Gotenks gets stomped

 

[Papasmurf]

Freeza probably annihilates him

 

[Southern Gothic]

I'm really wondering if his forms increase power the same as they use to. Especially considering how powerful his first form seems to be. No evidence, but I kinda think his first three forms are just kind of the same now.

I mean, if he had lived, I don’t ever see him using those other forms, especially 2 and 3.

Anyway, if this is SSJ Gotenks, I have to go with Freeza here.

 

[Zippy]

I'm really wondering if his forms increase power the same as they use to. Especially considering how powerful his first form seems to be. No evidence, but I kinda think his first three forms are just kind of the same now.

I mean, if he had lived, I don’t ever see him using those other forms, especially 2 and 3.

Anyway, if this is SSJ Gotenks pre, I have to go with Freeza here.

Eh, his first form needs to be a good lead ahead of a Gohan who doesn't even k now if he can go SSJ.
Goku and Vegeta didnt really sought out for much of his power until he transformed either,

 

[Southern Gothic]

I'm really wondering if his forms increase power the same as they use to. Especially considering how powerful his first form seems to be. No evidence, but I kinda think his first three forms are just kind of the same now.

I mean, if he had lived, I don’t ever see him using those other forms, especially 2 and 3.

Anyway, if this is SSJ Gotenks pre, I have to go with Freeza here.

Eh, his first form needs to be a good lead ahead of a Gohan who doesn't even k now if he can go SSJ.
Goku and Vegeta didnt really sought out for much of his power until he transformed either,

But we didn't see his second or third form.

Either that, or the gains aren't anything really that special.

I guess if you think about it, the transformations from his first three forms aren't spectacular. The first time is basically a x2, and I don’t know if the next is much better.

His first form seems to have all the power anyway. But I do agree he is more than strong enough for Gohan, and Gotenks here too.

 

[Zippy]

I'm really wondering if his forms increase power the same as they use to. Especially considering how powerful his first form seems to be. No evidence, but I kinda think his first three forms are just kind of the same now.

I mean, if he had lived, I don’t ever see him using those other forms, especially 2 and 3.

Anyway, if this is SSJ Gotenks pre, I have to go with Freeza here.

Eh, his first form needs to be a good lead ahead of a Gohan who doesn't even k now if he can go SSJ.
Goku and Vegeta didnt really sought out for much of his power until he transformed either,

But we didn't see his second or third form.

Either that, or the gains aren't anything really that special.

I guess if you think about it, the transformations from his first three forms aren't spectacular. The first time is basically a x2, and I don’t know if the next is much better.

His first form seems to have all the power anyway. But I do agree he is more than strong enough for Gohan, and Gotenks here too.

I think him going 4th off the bat shows the great amount of supremacy it has over the last few. You can say he didnt wanna mess up like last time but the thing is if he really thinks that hell mess up in others forms the gap could be huge. In front of his 4th

 

[Disasters GoOn]

If Piccolo's and Gohan's statements about Third Form Frieza having a greater Ki than anything else has any truth in it, that implies that First Form Frieza (FnF)>>>SSj Goku (BoG; All Powers Absorbed)>>even SSj Vegetto (or at the least, Gohan-Boo).

And obviously, Third Form Frieza>>>First Form Frieza, so Gotenks is screwed.

 

[SIAD]

If Piccolo's and Gohan's statements about Third Form Frieza having a greater Ki than anything else has any truth in it, that implies that First Form Frieza (FnF)>>>SSj Goku (BoG; All Powers Absorbed)>>even SSj Vegetto (or at the least, Gohan-Boo).

And obviously, Third Form Frieza>>>First Form Frieza, so Gotenks is screwed.

And that I miss in the chain add Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged).

 

[ahill1]

How I would know? Freeza didn't even show his third form lol.

 

[Disasters GoOn]

If Piccolo's and Gohan's statements about Third Form Frieza having a greater Ki than anything else has any truth in it, that implies that First Form Frieza (FnF)>>>SSj Goku (BoG; All Powers Absorbed)>>even SSj Vegetto (or at the least, Gohan-Boo).

And obviously, Third Form Frieza>>>First Form Frieza, so Gotenks is screwed.

And that I miss in the chain add Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged).

Well, it would be kind of redundant IMO.

Gohan already knows of Enraged Vegeta, and we know that Enraged Vegeta>>>Gohan-Boo at the least, so I felt that I didn't need to say it. Pretty much most people on this forum agree with that notion at the very least.

EDIT: But yes, Enraged SSj2 Vegeta>>>Super Vegetto at the least IMO.

 

[SIAD]

If Piccolo's and Gohan's statements about Third Form Frieza having a greater Ki than anything else has any truth in it, that implies that First Form Frieza (FnF)>>>SSj Goku (BoG; All Powers Absorbed)>>even SSj Vegetto (or at the least, Gohan-Boo).

And obviously, Third Form Frieza>>>First Form Frieza, so Gotenks is screwed.

And that I miss in the chain add Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged).

Well, it would be kind of redundant IMO.

Gohan already knows of Enraged Vegeta, and we know that Enraged Vegeta>>>Gohan-Boo at the least, so I felt that I didn't need to say it. Pretty much most people on this forum agree with that notion at the very least.

EDIT: But yes, Enraged SSj2 Vegeta>>>Super Vegetto at the least IMO.

I go Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> / >>>>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (DBS) >>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).All it is depending on how necessary it was that Bills use his 10%.

 

[Disasters GoOn]

And that I miss in the chain add Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged).

Well, it would be kind of redundant IMO.

Gohan already knows of Enraged Vegeta, and we know that Enraged Vegeta>>>Gohan-Boo at the least, so I felt that I didn't need to say it. Pretty much most people on this forum agree with that notion at the very least.

EDIT: But yes, Enraged SSj2 Vegeta>>>Super Vegetto at the least IMO.

I go Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> / >>>>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (DBS) >>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).All it is depending on how necessary it was that Bills use his 10%.

Well, supposedly the "Beerus used 10% of his power" deal was actually a fanslation error IIRC. Someone told me it was 1%.

Regardless, I think that Enraged SSj2 Vegeta>>SSj2 or even SSj3 Vegetto is possible.

 

[Disasters GoOn]

And that I miss in the chain add Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged).

Well, it would be kind of redundant IMO.

Gohan already knows of Enraged Vegeta, and we know that Enraged Vegeta>>>Gohan-Boo at the least, so I felt that I didn't need to say it. Pretty much most people on this forum agree with that notion at the very least.

EDIT: But yes, Enraged SSj2 Vegeta>>>Super Vegetto at the least IMO.

I go Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> / >>>>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (DBS) >>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).All it is depending on how necessary it was that Bills use his 10%.

Well, supposedly the "Beerus used 10% of his power" deal was actually a fanslation error IIRC. Someone told me it was 1%.

Regardless, I think that Enraged SSj2 Vegeta>>SSj2 or even SSj3 Vegetto is possible.

EDIT: I read Koshka's post on Shinden no Fukkatsu...

Apparently, the 10% figure might be true. If that's the case, then I'm gonna cry. That's a lot more Toei/New Toriyama wanking than I can handle.

 

[SIAD]

Well, it would be kind of redundant IMO.

Gohan already knows of Enraged Vegeta, and we know that Enraged Vegeta>>>Gohan-Boo at the least, so I felt that I didn't need to say it. Pretty much most people on this forum agree with that notion at the very least.

EDIT: But yes, Enraged SSj2 Vegeta>>>Super Vegetto at the least IMO.

I go Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> / >>>>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (DBS) >>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).All it is depending on how necessary it was that Bills use his 10%.

Well, supposedly the "Beerus used 10% of his power" deal was actually a fanslation error IIRC. Someone told me it was 1%.

Regardless, I think that Enraged SSj2 Vegeta>>SSj2 or even SSj3 Vegetto is possible.

EDIT: I read Koshka's post on Shinden no Fukkatsu...

Apparently, the 10% figure might be true. If that's the case, then I'm gonna cry. That's a lot more Toei/New Toriyama wanking than I can handle.

10% think their was tremendously higher than Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged), whether we have hope.

 

[SuperGogeta]

And that I miss in the chain add Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged).

Well, it would be kind of redundant IMO.

Gohan already knows of Enraged Vegeta, and we know that Enraged Vegeta>>>Gohan-Boo at the least, so I felt that I didn't need to say it. Pretty much most people on this forum agree with that notion at the very least.

EDIT: But yes, Enraged SSj2 Vegeta>>>Super Vegetto at the least IMO.

I go Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> / >>>>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (DBS) >>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).All it is depending on how necessary it was that Bills use his 10%.

Emm... SSj3 Vegetto being less than 10% or 1% of Beerus is too Low , IMO , Vegetto needs to be atleast at 20-40% of Beerus, since Beerus used 10% of his power against Ravegeta, Vegeta can be 1-5% of Beerus , but thats too much wanking...

 

[Disasters GoOn]

Well, it would be kind of redundant IMO.

Gohan already knows of Enraged Vegeta, and we know that Enraged Vegeta>>>Gohan-Boo at the least, so I felt that I didn't need to say it. Pretty much most people on this forum agree with that notion at the very least.

EDIT: But yes, Enraged SSj2 Vegeta>>>Super Vegetto at the least IMO.

I go Vegeta SSJ2 (Enraged)> / >>>>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (DBS) >>>>> Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo).All it is depending on how necessary it was that Bills use his 10%.

Emm... SSj3 Vegetto being less than 10% or 1% of Beerus is too Low , IMO , Vegetto needs to be atleast at 20-40% of Beerus, since Beerus used 10% of his power against Ravegeta, Vegeta can be 1-5% of Beerus , but thats too much wanking...

While I myself don't go with the "Heavily-Suppressed Beerus>>>SSj3 Vegetto" idea myself, I don't see why it's wanking (or at least, any more wanking than thinking that Vegetto is even remotely close to 10% of Beerus.)

Goku makes a statement saying that a fusion between him and Vegeta would likely fail against Beerus. Since the Potara Earrings were shown (at least, in BoG; I'm not sure in the DBS version), it would imply that Goku was thinking of Vegetto. And since Goku can transform into SSj3, it's possible that Vegetto could transform into SSj3 as well.

Even if Vegetto can't transform into SSj3, he still has SSj2.

By "heavily-suppressed," that could mean that Beerus was using 10% of his power at the most. This implies that "Beerus (10% FP)>>SSj2 Vegetto (DBS)" makes sense.