3rd Form Freeza

[SSJ2]

What do you think his power level is? How much stronger than Piccolo is he?

 

[theallpowerfulpuipui]

Geocities said 1.6 million and I don't see how this is contradicted.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Since base Goku was listed with a BP 3 million by Daizenshuu (correct me if I'm wrong), I'd say Appule Freeza was probably around 2-2.2 million with Vegeta around 2.5 million.

 

[Hector]

Freeza 2nd form
-initial: 1m
-powered up: 1.2m
-max: 1.4m

Piccolo
-weights: 1.25m
-no weights: 1.5m

Freeza 3rd form: 2.25m

Vegeta: 3m

Freeza 4th form (pre 50%): 3m-6.75m (fluctuates with effort)

Goku: 6m

 

[Pyro]

Including guidebooks, probably no more than 2.5 million at best, and 1.8 million at worst.

Not including guidebook references, I'd say a good range is 2-3 million.

 

[ahill1]

I always found 2,000,000 a good spot, with Piccolo being 1,500,000.

 

[SSJ2]

I always found 2,000,000 a good spot, with Piccolo being 1,500,000.

No.

 

[ahill1]

yep. admit my numbers are perfection

 

[SSJ2]

2nd Form Freeza's power ups should be more impressive than you're giving him credit for.

 

[ahill1]

I dunno. I currently have:

Freeza (initially) - 1,060,000
-- power up - 1,200,000
-- full power - 1,400,000

The first power up all we have is Gohan commenting his chi is getting bigger and Vegeta noticing he can control his power. I have it as an 89/100 increase. I find that enough. Goku was very surprised with a similar increase from Vegeta on Earth and we got a very flashing and impressive visual demonstration of Vegeta ascending to full power, going from ~16,000 to 18,000.

The second one, he goes from slightly below weighted Piccolo to a level he could deal with the latter with facilty. I find a 85/100 power up kind of doing the job. That's basically the gap between monster Zarbon and 24k Vegeta and that turned very ugly. Piccolo would be 1250 and 89% of full power 2nd form Freeza, and I find that enough to showcase the kind of dominance Freeza put on, on the grounds of Vegeta being too much for 16k Goku and even holding back his blast not to kill him.

Maybe I could push things a little and have Freeza at 1,500,000, having therein a more solid 83/100 gap over Piccolo, with Piccolo at 1.6M and 3rd form Freeza at 2,120,000 (exactly 2x his initial power) but it makes little difference to me.

 

[SSJ2]

It's more so the reactions for me instead of the dialogue.

Viz obviously botched Piccolo's quote, but the reactions warrant more than a 1.13x increase imo.

your second power up looks fine to me.

 

[ahill1]

Vegeta's and Gohan's reactions seemed to come more from the fact that Freeza could increase his chi even more, to me. I also think Piccolo's quote is in reference to Freeza going from 1st form to 2nd form. Looking closely, the speech came a chapter before Freeza actually began powering up in his 2nd form.

 

[SSJ2]

Lmfao what? Freeza had already been transformed for 2 chapters and Piccolo quote came the moment after Freeza's power up began. Really makes no sense for Piccolo to chime in about his initial transformation at this moment.

 

[ahill1]

Yeah, but Freeza had yet to power up when Piccolo made that comment. I think they just showed Piccolo's reaction a little belatedly.