A Small Guantlet for Accelerator

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After seeing the power of Accelerator over on F in a thread, I've thought up a few characters that may be able to take care of Accelerator without killing themseves... atleas Permanently anyway. Any Accelerator experts would be appreciated to offer why they think Accelerator would win.

Asura the Destructor (Asura's Wrath)

Ultimecia (FF8/Dissidia)

God-Emperor of Mankind

Slaanesh

Tzeentch

Khorne

Chakravartin
 

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Can I get a little background on these characters? lol
But pretty much Accelerator won't be beaten by any normal attack like energy blasts and punches. That's in his base form alone, he can reflect any attack like that without even moving or breaking any sort of sweat. Magic can get through his barrier but there is no guarantee that he won't be able to control it. He came across vectors that "don't exist" in the world and managed to take control of them and turn them on his opponent, smashing the guy to bits.
 

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Hmmm...it's been about 2 years since I replayed FF8. I remember Ultimacia has some time warping powers, does she not? That would come in pretty handy.

Although I can't recall if she used it for plot or a direct weapon.
 

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Certainly.

Asura the Destructor is Asura's form that makes him larger than Earth, it also allows him to move faster than light. As well as punch out stars and other planets, he gains this power after absorbing a barely any effort blast from Chakravartin that was meant to destroy Earth. Asura in this form basically says fuck you to metaphysics as he punches his way into Event Horizon, or heaven. His form beyond that allowed him to literally destroy dimensions with punches. It is also in that form that allows him to destroy the creator of the universe even though the creator had control over all mantra (their energy.) Meaning that Asura's power is less Mantra as it is his rage, this also means his rage overwrites the rules of reality since all beings were supposed to be made of Mantra.
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Ultimecia is the main antagonist of the game Final Fantasy 8, I'm going to give you the short version of what she can do since she more or less orchestrated everything the villains do in the game.
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-can give physical form to your thoughts, as well as put them under her control. She did this to Squall, whom's most powerful idea was Griever.
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</div>-She has absorbed the power from all sorceresses to have ever existed.
-Is immortal and cannot die unless she passes her powers to another female.
-Has put an entire city under a spell strong enough to make them love her no matter what she did

Now, we're going to need a little background for this next part as to where magic comes from. In the beginning, there was nothing, then, there was Hyne. Hyne gave life to the universe, creating planets, stars, anything within. However, Hyne had tired itself out and landed on Earth. Realizing that it would be awhile until it woke up, Hyne created mankind and gave it the tools to shape the Earth. Hyne then rested for an untold amount of time until it woke up and saw that humanity had not only shaped the Earth with its tools, but had grown absurdly large in number. To deal with this, Hyne destroyed all the children in the world. Angered by this, humanity took war upon Hyne. Hyne in its weakened state could not stand to all of humanity and worked a deal out. Hyne shed its lower half and gave it to humanity, this part dissipated and would find itself dispersed amongst the female population. These females would come to be known as Sorceresses as they had inherited a fraction of half of Hyne (magic).

Ultimecia, in an attempt to escape persecution in the far future. Goes back and forces sorceresses through her schemes to pass their power in a controlled plot leading up to Ultimecia absorbing every Sorceresses' power except for Rinoa, whom through Time Paradox also has the same magic sum as Ultimecia. However, Ultimecia has far greater control over it. Which leads me to her Ultimate Form.

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In this form, Ultimecia absorbs time/space/existence itself in order to become omnipotent. In fact, the ONLY reason why Squall and co. beat her was literally because they all had Love, Fate, and Friendship all on their side. It is stated that if either their love or fate for one another were to falter, they would've been done for the instant it happened. In this form she is seen absorbing everything inside the universe.

The others... well... tell me if Accelerator gets past those two first.
 

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Southern Gothic said:
Hmmm...it's been about 2 years since I replayed FF8. I remember Ultimacia has some time warping powers, does she not? That would come in pretty handy.

Although I can't recall if she used it for plot or a direct weapon.
In FF8 she used it as plot, in Dissidia she uses it as a direct weapon.
 

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I should probably note that Accelerator's power isn't just having something that can reflect all vectors he can control any and all of them as well. He has an almost intrinsic control of the world and it even seems to go beyond the physical realm as well.

For example the guy literally was able to manipulate and delete a computer virus. A computer virus inside a little girl. Everyone was like "You can't do it Acceleator." And the #1 was like "Fuck ya'll I' got this!"

So he does it! He just straight up goes supercomputer on her ass and starts fucking with her programming directly because he's fucking Accelerator.

He got shot in the head afterwards but that's another story overall again.
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Accelerator can't be mind controlled either though this is only by inferring it. The #5 Level 5 Mental Out who has the strongest mental capabilities out of everyone can't even take control over the #3 because of the electrical interference that she controls. It's safe to infer that the #1 whom let's just say has been proven quite handily to be far superior to Misaka Mikoto could not be mentally controlled either just because of his natural ability of controlling and manipulating vectors.

In the Light Novel, the guy in his base form was casually able to slow the rotation of the Earth for 5 minutes. The mental computations in his head is so powerful that it essentially takes the combination of over 10,000 minds to use it. As stated in the other topic, Accelerator eventually was able to control even Dark Matter whose vectors don't even naturally exist in the real world.
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And then we got Black Wings mode which are stated to leave the category of logic. Accelerator has casually turned people into shooting stars and then we have what he did to Kakine Teitoku again.

And at this point Kakine was busting out power that was implied to be stronger than Base Accelerator. The narration was going on about how Kakine Teitoku was getting even stronger and that somone like Accelerator was nothing more than a tool for him to test his new power out. It was getting explicit that if every single Esper and every single army with every single weapon tried to take Kakine on, they would not only lose but Kakine would come out completely unscratched.

Accelerator makes a very small motion with his hand and doesn't even touch the guy.

The next line is literally "Splat"

He massacres the guy right there and leaves the poor guy wondering what the hell just happened right before Accelerator as I again noted in the other topic, beat him so badly that the only thing left is a few organs and even his brain was split into three parts.
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And then at last we got Angel Mode and...well at this point imagine an even stronger version of Black Wings Accelerator who can seemingly control and utilize magic and reflect shit that he normally shouldn't have.
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For Asura whom I have at least a little tiny bit of knowledge on, unless he's utilizing abilities that are just beyond normal logic (and I repeat again, Accelreator's able to go beyond normal logic as well) then he can't win. Asura can punch out the entire universe all he wants, physical strength won't mean anything to the guy.

Accelerator may not be able to win either just because of the sheer difference in scope between the two.

Think of it this way. Other than maybe some VERY select points, forget physical attacks. Forget any attacks that can travel from point A to B. 99.9% of the chance it's going to get flung right back at you.

If you do have something that can, congratulations, you may now take your next step in facing Black Wings which fucks logic.
 

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Lord Brofist said:
I should probably note that Accelerator's power isn't just having something that can reflect all vectors he can control any and all of them as well. He has an almost intrinsic control of the world and it even seems to go beyond the physical realm as well.

For example the guy literally was able to manipulate and delete a computer virus. A computer virus inside a little girl. Everyone was like "You can't do it Acceleator." And the #1 was like "Fuck ya'll I' got this!"

So he does it! He just straight up goes supercomputer on her ass and starts fucking with her programming directly because he's fucking Accelerator.

He got shot in the head afterwards but that's another story overall again.
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Accelerator can't be mind controlled either though this is only by inferring it. The #5 Level 5 Mental Out who has the strongest mental capabilities out of everyone can't even take control over the #3 because of the electrical interference that she controls. It's safe to infer that the #1 whom let's just say has been proven quite handily to be far superior to Misaka Mikoto could not be mentally controlled either just because of his natural ability of controlling and manipulating vectors.

In the Light Novel, the guy in his base form was casually able to slow the rotation of the Earth for 5 minutes. The mental computations in his head is so powerful that it essentially takes the combination of over 10,000 minds to use it. As stated in the other topic, Accelerator eventually was able to control even Dark Matter whose vectors don't even naturally exist in the real world.
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And then we got Black Wings mode which are stated to leave the category of logic. Accelerator has casually turned people into shooting stars and then we have what he did to Kakine Teitoku again.

And at this point Kakine was busting out power that was implied to be stronger than Base Accelerator. The narration was going on about how Kakine Teitoku was getting even stronger and that somone like Accelerator was nothing more than a tool for him to test his new power out. It was getting explicit that if every single Esper and every single army with every single weapon tried to take Kakine on, they would not only lose but Kakine would come out completely unscratched.

Accelerator makes a very small motion with his hand and doesn't even touch the guy.

The next line is literally "Splat"

He massacres the guy right there and leaves the poor guy wondering what the hell just happened right before Accelerator as I again noted in the other topic, beat him so badly that the only thing left is a few organs and even his brain was split into three parts.
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And then at last we got Angel Mode and...well at this point imagine an even stronger version of Black Wings Accelerator who can seemingly control and utilize magic and reflect shit that he normally shouldn't have.
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For Asura whom I have at least a little tiny bit of knowledge on, unless he's utilizing abilities that are just beyond normal logic (and I repeat again, Accelreator's able to go beyond normal logic as well) then he can't win. Asura can punch out the entire universe all he wants, physical strength won't mean anything to the guy.

Accelerator may not be able to win either just because of the sheer difference in scope between the two.

Think of it this way. Other than maybe some VERY select points, forget physical attacks. Forget any attacks that can travel from point A to B. 99.9% of the chance it's going to get flung right back at you.

If you do have something that can, congratulations, you may now take your next step in facing Black Wings which fucks logic.
Gotcha, so he can take on Asura. I'll count that as a victory. But what are your thoughts on how he fares against Ultimecia? Going off of what I've listed here.
 

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As noted, mind control means nothing and throwing any physical attacks at him won't mean anything either. From what I gather Accelerator could last at least up until Ultimate Ultimecia. If your omnipotent or even just a really hardcore reality warper then even Accelerator's going to find himself in a very sticky situation.
 

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Lord Brofist said:
As noted, mind control means nothing and throwing any physical attacks at him won't mean anything either. From what I gather Accelerator could last at least up until Ultimate Ultimecia. If your omnipotent or even just a really hardcore reality warper then even Accelerator's going to find himself in a very sticky situation.
Hmm, you don't think Ultimecia giving birth to the thing he fears most and forcing him to fight it would do anything? Not even after junctioning with it?
 

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I won't say it wouldn't because there have times where people have strained Accelerator's mind and nearly made him go insane through emotional turmoil and such things can effect his ability to control his reflection.

Kakine Teitoku himself actually does this in New Testament and basically mind rapes him to the point where his own abilities are thrown out of wack. It's even worse in Old Testament when Misaka WORST does it and the guy goes insane.

Unfortunately on the latter part, he also starts sprouting out Black Wings Mode.

But for sake of things sure, while manipulating his thoughts wouldn't really work, it would be possible to manipulate his emotional state. Though its implied in later volumes that he's able to control his emotional state much easier now.
 

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I go out for lunch and come back and Brofist has swooped in haha. But yeah the dude is mega powerful lol
 

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