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Was just randomly reading through the battle and it made me remember some stuff that was being debated before: Freeza increasing his power to stop the Kaio-Ken x20 KMHMH.
Back when there was discussion on this, the consensus seemed to be that Freeza had to have upped his power in order for Goku to say what he said. I kinda understood what everyone was saying...but I kinda didn't as well. The way I read it, Freeza stopping the blast with no (at least to Goku and the others) visible damage appeared to be confirmation that Freeza was indeed only using 50% of his power.
Goku suspected that he was at 50% prior to this instance, but he was still hoping Freeza was probably at full-power or close to it. I think that's why he put his all into the Kaio-Ken x20 KMHMH. If Freeza was talking shit and actually near his limit, he'd probably be more strained from stopping it. If anything, I'd think this would strongly imply Freeza didn't raise his power, as that would make the statement that much more meaningful.
It's possible that Freeza increased his power. If he did, though, I doubt it was by a tremendous amount. Maybe to like 52% or so. Possibly less. That would still fall under "about half power".
Looking at the entire scene:
Goku pretty much laughs off the idea that Freeza could demolish him at 50% and thinks that Freeza is talking shit:
As we can see, Goku immediately realized that Freeza wasn't bluffing about what he said as he prepared to attack.
Everything after just seems to be Goku trying to rationalize to himself that Freeza isn't only using 50% of his power more so than anything else:
I think Freeza stopping the attack the way he did merely fully convinced Goku that Freeza was only wielding 50% of his power. It was already somewhat confirmed by Goku, but the Kaio-Ken x20 instance was just complete confirmation that Freeza was for real.
The next thing I wanted to talk about was Goku here:
He already appeared to be at his breaking point when Freeza zapped Piccolo, so what would've happened if Freeza didn't blow Krillin up? Would Goku have transformed anyway? Or do you think something else would've taken place? I always wondered about this moment in the Freeza saga.
Back when there was discussion on this, the consensus seemed to be that Freeza had to have upped his power in order for Goku to say what he said. I kinda understood what everyone was saying...but I kinda didn't as well. The way I read it, Freeza stopping the blast with no (at least to Goku and the others) visible damage appeared to be confirmation that Freeza was indeed only using 50% of his power.
Goku suspected that he was at 50% prior to this instance, but he was still hoping Freeza was probably at full-power or close to it. I think that's why he put his all into the Kaio-Ken x20 KMHMH. If Freeza was talking shit and actually near his limit, he'd probably be more strained from stopping it. If anything, I'd think this would strongly imply Freeza didn't raise his power, as that would make the statement that much more meaningful.
It's possible that Freeza increased his power. If he did, though, I doubt it was by a tremendous amount. Maybe to like 52% or so. Possibly less. That would still fall under "about half power".
Looking at the entire scene:
Goku pretty much laughs off the idea that Freeza could demolish him at 50% and thinks that Freeza is talking shit:
As we can see, Goku immediately realized that Freeza wasn't bluffing about what he said as he prepared to attack.
Everything after just seems to be Goku trying to rationalize to himself that Freeza isn't only using 50% of his power more so than anything else:
I think Freeza stopping the attack the way he did merely fully convinced Goku that Freeza was only wielding 50% of his power. It was already somewhat confirmed by Goku, but the Kaio-Ken x20 instance was just complete confirmation that Freeza was for real.
The next thing I wanted to talk about was Goku here:
He already appeared to be at his breaking point when Freeza zapped Piccolo, so what would've happened if Freeza didn't blow Krillin up? Would Goku have transformed anyway? Or do you think something else would've taken place? I always wondered about this moment in the Freeza saga.
