Are Gogeta and Vegetto the same person?

[Classic Adamas]

I know they're different characters of different fusion methods and one's from :toei and the other was in the Mongoose, but are they really different, or the same being, brought about through different means? They're both composed of the same people, so I fail to see what would make them distinctly different beings.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

No because Gogeta is non canon

 

[Warmmedown]

Graphite and diamond are both carbon

 

[SSJ2]

I think they'd probably have the same personality if they were both in the same manga.

 

[Pyro]

No. Twins aren't necessarily the same even though they share the same DNA.

 

[Papasmurf]

They're both the same

 

[Keedounan]

Gogeta claims his own identity, while Vegetto claims he's both Goku and Vegeta. They're not the same.

 

[The_Authority]

They aren't the same person. Because Gogeta is no-canon nd we're having this discussion, we have to overlook that, and use non-canon as if it were "real." So, whoever has a problem with that, has to overlook it. Anyway.

Gogeta has a totally different personality than Vegetto. We didn't really get to know Gogeta in Movie 12, but we did in GT. Vegetto was pretty calculated and his cockiness was revealed to be a tactic to anger Boo so that he could get swallowed up. We got a peek into his mindset, where he was pretty serious. In GT, Gogeta was pretty goofy and silly. Gogeta acted a lot like Gotenks, where there seemed to be no reason behind why he was so arrogant. So, they have different personalities and they have a different look, so I'd say that they're not the same person.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Gogeta seems to have Goku as his primary personality influence, whereas Vegetto takes a lot more influence from Vegeta, given he even refers to Galu using his Saiyan name. Not too much of a difference between them, but more than just a direct copy of the other.

 

[The_Authority]

Alright, first of all who the effin' hell is Galu?

Second of all, I don't think that either of them take a "primary." I think that it's just people looking too deep into it.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Alright, first of all who the effin' hell is Galu?

A Zeta meme based on SSJ2's Ipad once autocorrecting Goku to Galu.

Second of all, I don't think that either of them take a "primary." I think that it's just people looking too deep into it.

I doubt Vegetto would refer to Goku as Kakarotto or provide it as part of his name if that were truly the case.

 

[The_Authority]

So because when naming himself, Vegetto looked at Goku's Saiyan name, people think that he took Vegeta's personality? That doesn't really prove anything, to be honest. To be totally honest, it's the last two Saiyans, so that probably influenced why the name came about the way it did. It's clearly a completely separate character from Goku and Vegeta, so you can't really say that either of them are "dominant."

 

[Captain Cadaver]

So because when naming himself, Vegetto looked at Goku's Saiyan name, people think that he took Vegeta's personality? That doesn't really prove anything, to be honest.

Not entirely. Vegeta seems like a more prevalent part of Vegetto, but only by a 60-40 split at most.

To be totally honest, it's the last two Saiyans, so that probably influenced why the name came about the way it did.

Even so, Goku never felt so much pride in his Saiyan heritage as to declare himself by his Saiyan name, even against Freeza where his care for such was at it's peak.

 

[The_Authority]

But it's not Goku nor Vegeta, it's Vegetto. It's a separate character. At least, that's the point. It's not like Vegeta is more in control than Goku because they're gone while Vegetto is there.

But where I can understand why people would assume that Vegeta was somehow the dominant in Vegetto, I don't understand Gogeta. There's zero to go on with that. It's the same as asking who's dominant in Gotenks -- nobody knows.

The entire point is that it's a totally different character than either of the two that fused.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

But it's not Goku nor Vegeta, it's Vegetto. It's a separate character. At least, that's the point. It's not like Vegeta is more in control than Goku because they're gone while Vegetto is there.

Attribute influence =/= Direct control

But where I can understand why people would assume that Vegeta was somehow the dominant in Vegetto, I don't understand Gogeta. There's zero to go on with that.

For M12 Gogeta, there's indeed no evidence. For GT Gogeta on the other hand, he definitely has more of Goku's attributes, such as a childlike nature when using the Bluff Kamehameha.

It's the same as asking who's dominant in Gotenks -- nobody knows.

He definitely has far more attributes of Trunks, considering Goten isn't overly arrogant, Gotenks' defining trait.

The entire point is that it's a totally different character than either of the two that fused.

I'm not arguing against that. What I am arguing is that the attributes of the fusees that effect their personality isn't an even split.

 

[The_Authority]

But if it's a new character, his personality should be his own. i guess I'm thinking too deep into it, but if it's a new character, he didn't take anyone's traits; he has them on his own. Kind of like how Kurilin and Yamucha can be cowardly -- they didn't take personalities from each other, they just happen to share that trait.

Maybe I'm just going too deep into it, I don't know.