Bobbidi's men having no Chi, battle destinations, and Roshi

[Evil Vegeta]

I've been reading the Boo saga again and just been thinking about more stuff.

Why are Bobbidi's henchmen unable to be sensed? The most logical answer is that Bobbidi's spell prevents this, but Vegeta seemed to be the only exception. Vegeta was a fresh recruit, along with the fact that he wasn't under Bobbidi's complete control. I feel like those reasons might've factored into him still having the same Chi despite being possessed. Dabra, Pui-Pui, and Yakon seemed to have been under Bobbidi's control for a much a longer period, so it's possible that the spell just made their natural Chi vanish.

We see that Pui-Pui fought Vegeta on his planet for the 10x gravity advantage, and that Yakon fought on the dark planet for the advantage of darkness. From what's shown, the fight with Dabra appears to be taking place in some demonic world or something. Not really sure, but we know it wasn't on Earth. Any particular advantage Dabra could've gained from here? Or is it possible that it was just a matter of changing the scenery for the hell of it? I always liked this concept during this sequence. Too bad it ended up being useless.

Roshi was shown saying this immediately after the scene of Dabra confronting the others in Bobbidi's ship:

What was he sensing?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

The Z Fighters were unable to sense :bitch and Yamu though, so it's unlikely Vegeta was sensed because he's a new minion. I always thought it was because he wasn't fully Zombified like the others were, he was still himself, not a minion.

I think the point of having the battle at Dabura's home was to prevent the Ship from being damaged, i don't see how a place full of mountains and lagoons could possibly help Dabura.

When did Roshi sense this Ki?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Totally forgot about Spopo and Yamu. Good point.

Yeah, I wasn't really expecting it to have any special advantage. Dabra looked pretty shit in that battle.

The Roshi scene is about two pages after Dabra confronts the others in Bobbidi's ship.

 

[Southern Gothic]

Roshi is sensing the group's ki, is he not? Goku, Gohan and Kaioshin.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

"Nevertheless, it appears that something is happening. There are large ki gathered in a distant location."

That's Roshi's Japanese quote. The most likely explanation is what you said, but the quote itself kinda makes it seem like he might be sensing something else as well. I mean, he did see them all fly off together, so it shouldn't be a surprise that all of their Chi would be together.

I hella overanalyze shit, though.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I'd say he's talking about SSJ(2) Gohan, but the way he talks seems to imply it's someone he doesn't know. Weird.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

That's pretty much why the quote stood out to me.

I was wondering if it could infer that he sensed something outside of the Saiyans. Like you said, it comes off as being unfamiliar to the Chi he's sensing. I figure that's why he'd believe something was up.

Also, since they'd be in Bobbidi's ship or transported to whatever world they're fighting in, I thought he'd be unable to sense them.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Maybe he was sensing Babidi.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Babidi's minions being not capable enough to sense the other warriors are nothing more than arrogance/ignorant from their part similar in the early series where sensing ki played a huge role.

As for Roshi, its more like he sensed a disturbing energy but it doesn't have to be an actual sensing ki, kinda like how Videl can tell that Gohan's alive but Goku can't because he can't sense Gohan. Its more of a feelings than sensing is what I'm saying.

 

[Jeff Styles]

During Videl vs Spopovich, Goku says he couldn't sense any ki from Spopovich. It's most likely because Babidi didn't want Shin to know where him or his henchmen were.


The place Dabura and Gohan fought in was probably because Babidi didn't wants the ship to be damage or because it's a place Dabura is comfortable fighting in. A place he probably exclusive train in. A place he could maneuver around freely and masterfully.


Seems like Roshi sense the 3 Saiyans or he sense Gohan powering up and felt he has to fighting someone.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Looking at the anime, the kids were actually able to sense Dabra's Chi when he was fighting Boo. Dabra did a power-up that looked pretty cool. Overall, he seemed a lot more explored in the anime compared to the manga.

 

[Papasmurf]

yeah I dont think dabra gained any advantage from the landscape he fought Gohan in. While he's an overconfident moron, he's still confident in taking down Gohands on Earth when they're about to fight in front of Boo's ball, so the place they fought in previously was likely neither hindrance nor help.

Anime-wise he asks for Babidi to teleport them to a planet similar to Earth so he wouldn't have an unfair advantage.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

So you're telling me even the red sky didn't give him an advantage?!!

Lol, but that makes sense. He was having trouble and out of breath once the battle was over.

Who do you think Roshi was sensing?

 

[Papasmurf]

Didn't he say that around the time Gohan started fighting Dabra? My guess is Gohan turned SSJ while they were still on the ship so he sensed that.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Gohan was SSjin2 dammit!

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Yeah, the scene went back to the Budokai after Gohan was getting ready to fight Dabra.

So the other Chi is most likely Goku and Vegeta.