quote=h0kuten said:
Beerus is stated to use 10% of power in the Anime, which holds merit over the manga. So it's true by default. Umad?
I must have misread when you said there were statements in the manga and movie. Wait, no I didn't.
h0kuten said:
Vegetto Ssj3 ~ Confirmed weaker than 10% Beerus by multiple statements from a movie, manga & anime.
I'll take that above quote as your admission that there is nothing in the manga or movie.
Beerus was bloodied in Battle of Gods. Had a hard time in Dragonball Super and had to put some effort in whilst at 10%. At times, he couldn't follow his movements.
He didn't have a hard time in either one. He was playing around with Vegeta. Bloodied? Barely. He was just taken by surprise. Remember, he started out the fight with a level of power that couldn't even affect Vegeta. At the end of the fight, he was smiling with no signs of battle damage even after taking Vegeta's ultimate attack (while never going above 10%). None of the hits Vegeta landed stuck, not even a massive amped one. If he can't follow Vegeta's movements, it's only because he isn't taking the fight seriously. He's testing him out.
He was in complete control of that entire fight. He just wanted to witness Vegeta's peak power before ending the battle.
h0kuten said:
You've got to be one of the most ignorant, rude debaters (if I can call you that) I've ever seen.
I only give as good as I get. I responded with some vitriol to a post that was rude from the start:
h0kuten said:
Unless you're biased and ignore statements and feats.
Your post contained no evidence whatsoever. Just claims, then an ad-hominem attack.
h0kuten said:
You don't prove your points. You just spew meaningless bullshit that holds no merit or value.
Amusing coming from someone who posts nothing but claims. You haven't provided a single shred of evidence, not to mention making abjectly false claims, like "10% Beerus was mentioned the manga and movie" or "Vegetto was mentioned in the manga". Goku never even brought up fusion in the manga, there were no statements about 10% Beerus, nor indeed about enraged Vegeta's power (except > Goku).
If you'd be willing to provide your "multiple statements", I'm perfectly willing to engage you, but you don't. You post your opinion, then attack those who disagree with you, all the while pretending like they're ignoring something you've posted. You've posted nothing.
I'll post one more time why I consider Goku to be predicting Beerus's full power when he talks about fusion. Vegeta fought Beerus in the movie, he fared better than Goku, he took multiple hits and managed to block (before getting angry). Conclusion: Beerus used more power against Goku than he did against Vegeta. With me so far? What did Vegeta know at this point? "Kararot in Super Saiyan 3 was defeated in a single blow". Vegeta's conclusion after their fight: "You're way stronger than I expected". How did Vegeta come to that conclusion?
The way I see it, you've got two choices.
A. During their fight, Vegeta was able to tell that Beerus was holding back a great deal of power, much like Goku would have during his fight.
B. Vegeta expected someone against the Earth group to fare better against Beerus than they did, i.e. someone on Earth is stronger than Goku (Gohan? Gotenks? Tenshinhan?).
Take your pick.
It was confirmed that Beerus is the reincarnation of the tailor that Tao Pai Pai killed. There are multiple statements to back this up. You disagree? Well, you're just biased, I clearly posted the evidence didn't I?
