Can Gohan suppress his SSJ2?

[ahill1]

This seems to imply he could:

Spoiler

^Goku said Gohan was still holding back.

 

[Papasmurf]

He's not consciously suppressing, he's just afraid of damaging the planet the same way Freeza subconsciously held back when he tried to blow up Namek

 

[ahill1]

He's not consciously suppressing, he's just afraid of damaging the planet the same way Freeza subconsciously held back when he tried to blow up Namek

He is consciously suppressing, precisely by the reason of not wanting destroy the Earth.

 

[SSJ2]

He can hold back his KHH.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

He isn't consciously suppressing because he said he was using the attack at full-force. He only gets the bright idea of releasing all of his power when Goku alerted him to Cell's opening. You can even see the shock on his face. Gohan got motivated by Goku and powered-up his KMHMH before using it. No way was he purposely holding-back.

 

[sei'taer]

Gohan doesn't think he's holding back. He's not so much suppressing as he's not using all the power he has available for the KHH.

 

[ahill1]

He isn't consciously suppressing because he said he was using the attack at full-force. He only gets the bright idea of releasing all of his power when Goku alerted him to Cell's opening. You can even see the shock on his face. Gohan got motivated by Goku and powered-up his KMHMH before using it. No way was he purposely holding-back.

But right after this, Goku said Gohan is holding back due to not wanting to destroy the Earth. I don't see how this is not "purposely holding back".

Besides even if he is unconsciously holding back, it doesn't invalidate that Gohan can suppress his power as a SSJ2, does it?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Goku said Gohan was thinking of the damage "somewhere in his mind", implying it was on a subconscious level. This is why he told him to forget about it:

Goku: “Hang on! Hang on, Gohan! You ain’t putting out all your power yet! Make your power explode!”
Gohan: “I’m doing it at full force…! Any more than this is…”
Goku: “Somewhere in your mind you’re thinking of the damage to the Earth! Don’t worry about it! We’ll undo the damage with the dragonballs!”

Unless you think Gohan is outright telling a lie, I'm sure he believes he's using all he can. The whole scene is stupid, anyway. He's deliberately holding back to not damage the Earth, so it makes more sense to let Cell overpower him and destroy the Earth instead....

Even after Goku told him to forget about any potential damage to the planet, he still didn't do it. Gohan needed an extra push to tap into his remaining power after Vegeta created an opening, which he seemingly couldn't bring out normally.

 

[Papasmurf]

Cell probably predicted Vegeta'd try and attack him, realized he was too much of a pussy to do it for the first 5 minutes of the struggle, and was then about to unleash all his powa when Vegeta got the balls to do it

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I'm salty Base Vegeta's attack didn't bounce off of him.

Do you think he was Super Saiyan when he unleashed it and quickly reverted to normal? He was apologizing to Gohan in Super Saiyan mode, so it makes no sense for him to revert afterwards.

 

[Papasmurf]

I just chalk it up to off-guard attack logic although I'd prefer him be SSJ in that scene considering his SSJ blasts were all tanked. Cell's head was actually burned too, although he took it better than Nappa when he was blasted by Pic at least.

Almost had to resist throwing in that tired FNF reference yet again

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

He can't suppress it instead holding back his power.

 

[ahill1]

Goku said Gohan was thinking of the damage "somewhere in his mind", implying it was on a subconscious level. This is why he told him to forget about it:

Goku: “Hang on! Hang on, Gohan! You ain’t putting out all your power yet! Make your power explode!”
Gohan: “I’m doing it at full force…! Any more than this is…”
Goku: “Somewhere in your mind you’re thinking of the damage to the Earth! Don’t worry about it! We’ll undo the damage with the dragonballs!”

Unless you think Gohan is outright telling a lie, I'm sure he believes he's using all he can. The whole scene is stupid, anyway. He's deliberately holding back to not damage the Earth, so it makes more sense to let Cell overpower him and destroy the Earth instead....

Even after Goku told him to forget about any potential damage to the planet, he still didn't do it. Gohan needed an extra push to tap into his remaining power after Vegeta created an opening, which he seemingly couldn't bring out normally.

Good point. But I still think it's a bit stupid for him to subconsciously hold back like it. But even so, can Gohan suppress his power as SSJ2?

 

[Papasmurf]

Well if he was serious against regular PC his Kamehameha should've obliterated him. I think he's just capable of holding back some effort, as it's been stated and shown that power gets to his head in SSJ2

 

[ahill1]

Well if he was serious against regular PC his Kamehameha should've obliterated him. I think he's just capable of holding back some effort, as it's been stated and shown that power gets to his head in SSJ2

But he wasn't holding back only effort in the Kamehameha struggle against SPC, he was holding back power as well.

 

[Papasmurf]

You can put less ki into attacks/blasts without knowing how to suppress, just as Raditz stated he'd attack even stronger bit by bit.

 

[ahill1]

It seems rather confused lol.

 

[Kidbuu55]

Who said he can't suppress his power?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I think suppression is putting forth effort to lower your power to a relatively weak level. When Gohan and Krillin stole Vegeta's balls and hid from him, that was suppression. When Goku was constantly manipulating his power fighting the Ginyu Force, that was suppression.

What Gohan did doesn't seem to be suppression to me. He simply put forth whatever effort he felt was necessary to dominate Cell. Remember when Saiyan saga Vegeta was able to dominate Goku simply by playing around? That's because he was putting no effort into it. We know for a fact he wasn't suppressed because he had no clue how to even do such a thing back then. There's also Super Saiyan Goku beating the shit outta 50% Freeza while restraining himself. He doesn't appear to be suppressed, either.

So honestly, I see suppression and holding-back as entirely different concepts.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Who said he can't suppress his power?

That's logic says.