Cell should be equally powerful in all Temporary Lines?

[SIAD]

I mean that Cell Imperfect (Before absorbing) of the Future Line Trunks, would be just as powerful as Cell of the Original Line (Before absorbing), considering that the Androids of the Original Line are much superior to the Androids of the Line of Future Trunks?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Not really. Cell believing #17 and #18 were superior to himself at the time he fought Piccolo, in which his only basis would be from his own timeline's analytics, compared to the Cell from Trunks' timeline being assured at his superiority to the twins shows that their strength differs in each timeline despite their similarity. The same can easily apply for Cell as well with that being the case, especially when the timelines have such major differences as the Time Machine from Cell's timeline being set at 1 year earlier than that from Trunks'.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Not really. Cell believing #17 and #18 were superior to himself at the time he fought Piccolo, in which his only basis would be from his own timeline's analytics, compared to the Cell from Trunks' timeline being assured at his superiority to the twins shows that their strength differs in each timeline despite their similarity. The same can easily apply for Cell as well with that being the case, especially when the timelines have such major differences as the Time Machine from Cell's timeline being set at 1 year earlier than that from Trunks'.

I think Trunkses line about Present Androids>Alternate Androids just confuses things for no reason and even AT forgot it soon afterward as it seems. Cell's statement about Androids surpassing him and Alternate Seventeen's 'less than half' statement make more sense if you ignore that line.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

There's no need to ignore it when it was clearly added for a reason and, as I already mentioned, the timelines were still divergent enough that there was a 1 year difference between the Time Machine's destination in Cell and Trunks' timeline. No need to add more retcons when time travel being used to rewrite the plot was already being used liberally by Toriyama whenever he needed to extend things unnecessarily.

 

[SIAD]

Not really. Cell believing #17 and #18 were superior to himself at the time he fought Piccolo, in which his only basis would be from his own timeline's analytics, compared to the Cell from Trunks' timeline being assured at his superiority to the twins shows that their strength differs in each timeline despite their similarity. The same can easily apply for Cell as well with that being the case, especially when the timelines have such major differences as the Time Machine from Cell's timeline being set at 1 year earlier than that from Trunks'.

And do you think the Androids (Cell Line) are as powerful as the Androids (Main Line)?

  My only reason for not agreeing, is that I remember that at some point in the Anime, Cell remembered when he was an Embryo and listened to Gero telling # 17 and # 18 that Cell would be more powerful than them. For what it means Cell (Initial)> Android # 17 (Both of the Cell Line). Could it be that Cell when reborn reduced its power?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

And do you think the Androids (Cell Line) are as powerful as the Androids (Main Line)?

That's what the narrative suggests, so yes.

My only reason for not agreeing, is that I remember that at some point in the Anime, Cell remembered when he was an Embryo and listened to Gero telling # 17 and # 18 that Cell would be more powerful than them. For what it means Cell (Initial)> Android # 17 (Both of the Cell Line). Could it be that Cell when reborn reduced its power?

He was most likely referring to Cell's post-absorption power.

 

[SIAD]

And do you think the Androids (Cell Line) are as powerful as the Androids (Main Line)?

That's what the narrative suggests, so yes.

My only reason for not agreeing, is that I remember that at some point in the Anime, Cell remembered when he was an Embryo and listened to Gero telling # 17 and # 18 that Cell would be more powerful than them. For what it means Cell (Initial)> Android # 17 (Both of the Cell Line). Could it be that Cell when reborn reduced its power?

He was most likely referring to Cell's post-absorption power.

And do you think the Androids (Cell Line) are as bad as the Androids of the Future Trunks Line?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Considering humanity's conditions in Cell's timeline seemed identical to Trunks', yes.

 

[SIAD]

Considering humanity's conditions in Cell's timeline seemed identical to Trunks', yes.

It must have been very sinister that Temporal Line, with the Androids very powerful and bad at the same time. Maybe it's true that there was a Future Trunks that came to the Cell Line. Although Goku had had the medicine and the Z Warriors had been very strong, they would have been annihilated by the Androids, since they would be as bad as in the Future. Maybe with the arrival of Cell to the Main Timeline, the Androids for some reason, stopped being bad.

  The question is, how Trunks (Cell Line) destroyed the Androids (Cell Line), considering that the Androids were just as powerful as the Main Line and just as bad as the Androids of the Trunks Line?

 

[GSM123]

I like the theory that Cell somehow lost power from spending so much time as a larva. I think it's even stated somewhere in the manga, but i'm not sure.

 

[SIAD]

I like the theory that Cell somehow lost power from spending so much time as a larva. I think it's even stated somewhere in the manga, but i'm not sure.

Could you look for some evidence?

  I have been thinking that possibly Cell (Cell Line) is = Cell (Line Trunks), because even though the Androids of the Cell Line, are superior to their Homologs of the Trunks Line, the Cell (Trunks Line) He was constantly watching the battles of the Androids against Trunks, for while in the Cell Line, the latter only saw how another Future Trunks ended with Frieza.

  I also remember Cell (Line Trunks) telling Future Trunks, that the latter could not even against the Androids and much less with him. Therefore, Cell (Trunks Line) >>> Androids (Trunks Line).

  Possibly Cell's power does not depend so much on the power of the Androids, but depends on everything he has seen with his bug.

  Surely if in the Main Line, they had not destroyed Cell's Embryo, possibly that Perfect Cell would have been as powerful as Golden Freezer and without training.

 

[sei'taer]

Cell having to revert to his larval form explains any and all power discrepancies you can come up with. It took him 3 years to even achieve his first form, and his power in that form was nowhere near complete. He states something along the lines that piccolo's chi will finish his first evolution.

 

[SIAD]

Cell having to revert to his larval form explains any and all power discrepancies you can come up with. It took him 3 years to even achieve his first form, and his power in that form was nowhere near complete. He states something along the lines that piccolo's chi will finish his first evolution.

Interesting data Do you have the link where it says that?

 

[SIAD]

Cell (Initial) (Cell Line and Future Trunks Line) should be more powerful than Androids # 17 and # 18 of all the Temporary Lines, but still much lower than Cell (Post Human), which equals Android # 16.

 

[SIAD]

I found a problem with your theory. I was watching the Anime, chapter 143 and 144. When Cell tells Piccolo about his past, he shows the scenes of Future Trunks eliminating Frieza and King Cold. Cell talks about taking cells from Frieza and King Cold. Later he says that they had the possibility of extracting the cells of a warrior named Trunks. Later Cell tells when I kill Trunks. When Future Trunks and Kirilin appear at the place of battle between Piccolo and Cell, the latter is shocked to see another Trunks and says that not only should he kill him in the future, but also on that Line. Also when Krillin realizes that Cell can use Goku's Kamehameha, Krillin says to tell Goku. Later he is surprised that Goku is still alive. That explains that Goku (Cell Line) probably died in the same way as in the Timeline of Future Trunks.

 That means that Cell knows only 2 Trunks. Maybe those scenes of Trunks killing Frieza and King Cold, they only used it to save drawings and time.

Therefore the Androids (Line Cell) = Androids (Line Future Trunks) in terms of power and in terms of evil.

  Even so, I have Cell (Initial)> Androids (Main Line), because Cell after absorbing part of an arm to Piccolo, then tells him to absorb it completely and thus reach its original power. I think the power of absorption to Piccolo, is only sum and not an increase without sense of power, but Cell having absorbed part of that arm, had become extremely strong.

 

[ahill1]

Not really. Cell believing #17 and #18 were superior to himself at the time he fought Piccolo, in which his only basis would be from his own timeline's analytics, compared to the Cell from Trunks' timeline being assured at his superiority to the twins shows that their strength differs in each timeline despite their similarity. The same can easily apply for Cell as well with that being the case, especially when the timelines have such major differences as the Time Machine from Cell's timeline being set at 1 year earlier than that from Trunks'.

I'd argue that Cell's differing viewpoint regarding the androids would come more from him regressing down in strength after reverting himself down to his larval state. It'd make little sense for Gero to make Cell less powerful than the androids right outta the gate. Whilst many of Gero's decisions were dumb, as not transfering his brain to #16's body, it'd give him at least a bit of credit.

So I think there's no need for Cell have his power altered depending on the timeline, although Ginger Town Cell was exceptionally weaker due to reverting himself.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

That could be possible, though we don't really get much to go with on whether or not going into his larval state would indeed reduce his Ki by so much. It's also worth noting that Cell being weaker than #17 and #18 could be justified when considering he even stated himself the project containing him was turned into a side project and put on hold by Gero after it took too long. That may have affected it's overall quality.

 

[SIAD]

I already think again that Cell Lines and Future Trunks are identical, except that in one Cell Line I killed Future Trunks and in the other Line it was Future Trunks who killed Cell. I say that Androids and Cell (Cell Line) = Androids and Cell (Future Trunks Line).

 Cell to be reborn, he lost a good part of his power, but he knew that if he absorbed the power of Piccolo (Pondered), he could at least reach or surpass his initial power.

 Cell's statement that when he overtakes the Androids, he will look for them to absorb them, only indicates that Android # 17 (both future lines)> Cell (Post Absorber part of an arm of Piccolo) and the latter was not necessarily very superior to Vegeta SSJ (Androids).

 Future Trunks (Androids) was a distant rival of both Androids of the Future, since when returning to its Temporal Line, the Androids kept watching it as a toy (possibly because they were 2 against 1) and had some advantage over it. It would be something like Dodoria vs. Zarbon First Form + Vegeta (Upon arriving at Namek).

 I always thought that Future # 18 was = Android # 18 (At the beginning of his fight against Vegeta).