challenge(Sorry I was late was really busy/lazy 
) This is Episode One Maul btw. Bonus if Maul loses have it be his Clone Wars counterpart.
I mean didnt Kylo wipe out the Jedi order Luke attempted to restore. Isnt that a sign that hes strong? Maul did beat Qui-Gon Jinn but you can argue that Maul had better stamina than Jin who was quite old and wouldnt be as fit as Maul.Captain Cadaver said:Maul stomps. Even if taking the implications of Kylo being top tier in terms of Force power, his lightsaber skills are so terrible he lost to an unskilled Rey and even struggled with fucking Finn, despite the injury he had being mitigated by him using it as an amplifier for his rage.
Meanwhile, Maul fought evenly with one of the best duelists in the Jedi Order and is practically a fighting machine when it comes to his relentless yet skilful moves. He SUBVERTS EXPECTATIONS for the sequel cast by soloing them (though this is subject to change depending if Rey and Kylo get a huge buff in lightsaber skills).
If anything, that just shows how piss-poor Luke's students must have been.Ultimate Cell said:
That's true, with official material even have Maul cite he believed he'd lose until Jinn lost stamina. However, his skill and power are still very much on par with Jinn's, considering it wasn't until they were separated by the ray shields that Jinn's stamina loss started to become evident and Maul was still able to fight both him and Obi-Wan prior.
