Did humans become 100x stronger between KP Saga/23rd TB?

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If we take into account all gaps implied (Krillin/Yamcha being many times weaker than Pre Water Goku, Old Piccolo tanking KHH with less than half his chi etc), they got about 100x stronger. Is there any reasonable explanation?
 

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100x stronger is a lowball. Yamcha/Kuririn went from Large Building level or City Block level to City level, a difference of more or less a million times, with Tenshinhan going from either the same or maybe Multi-City Block level to at the very least the same tier. Ki-wise though, none of them probably even doubled their Ki when considering the battle powers at the start of Z.

As for the explanation why, the most likely one is due to the lead they already had over the Goku from 3 years ago before going on a similar training regime as well as greater experience in honing their Ki from both battles and observation, not to mention it being suggested they didn't split off on separate paths immediately. It's not really any different from them having gone from City or Island level at the start of Z to Moon/Small planet level after their training with Kami + an extra 6 months of solo training.

Hector said:
Old Piccolo tanking KHH with less than half his chi etc
He said he was using less than half his power, but didn't specify he meant half his Ki, something that definitely doesn't add up when taking into account the battle powers that would be revealed and the fact there's a huge discrepancy and lack of linearity between Ki/Battle Powers and destructive capability or physical strength.
 

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He said he was using less than half his power, but didn't specify he meant half his Ki, something that definitely doesn't add up when taking into account the battle powers that would be revealed and the fact there's a huge discrepancy and lack of linearity between Ki/Battle Powers and destructive capability or physical strength.

Daimao made a visual power up when he removed his cape and stomped Goku implying that literally was less than half of his ki and was using even less than that when he confronted Goku.

Daimao also knew how to fly which as shown by Gohan's toturing of Videl can't be learned without having sufficient ki control, which is probably why Goten was able to master after seeing how Gohan did it once.
 

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I have them getting 10-15x stronger. Goku's power up from the Chosinsui is implied to be a 10x gain by the reference of Oozaru. There's really not much reason for the humans to be above that when Tenshinhan claimed that weighted 23rd Goku's speed was no different to how it was 3 years ago. While Tenshinhan was shown to surpass that level, it wasn't by such a significant margin that he could defeat Goku. There's no need for him to completely blow post Chosinsui Goku out of the water, and he was the strongest of the humans by a significant amount.
 

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Not even close. Their power levels were still in the very low hundreds and albeit we don’t have official numbers for their 22nd Budokai levels, they surely weren’t single digit powers.

[mention]Captain Cadaver[/mention] how do you measure their destructive capabilities here? Kuririn and Yamcha don’t have any destructive feats in either tournaments as far as I remember.
 

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Animelover5487 said:
Daimao made a visual power up when he removed his cape and stomped Goku implying that literally was less than half of his ki and was using even less than that when he confronted Goku.
Except battle powers are a direct measurement of one's Ki, the terms often being treat as interchangeable, so it's obvious from the battle power numbers he couldn't be referring to that without actively ignoring what the manga presents us. Meanwhile, it's evident that stats such as destructive capability, physical strength and speed don't scale linearly with battle powers, making it a far more coherent measurement to work with when it comes to Daimao's statement.

GreatSaiyaman123 said:
@Captain Cadaver how do you measure their destructive capabilities here? Kuririn and Yamcha don’t have any destructive feats in either tournaments as far as I remember.
Scaling. 22nd TB Yamcha/Kuririn get scaling from either Tao Pai Pai's pillar throw being a Large Building level one or his ability to oneshot Blue with his tongue despite Blue displaying Large Building level durability feats such as surviving his plane crashing into a mountain requiring City Block level destructive force (depending on how much you consider this to be a display of Tao's overwhelming power compared to his skill). Meanwhile, it's evident their 23rd TB selves aren't leagues below Prime Daimao, who's quite obviously City level.
 
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