Does anybody want to make a Viz list?

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I mean that, in the parts where Viz and Herms are different, you'll go with what Viz says.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

This is what i can think right now...

Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P6.1-2
Context: as Dabra fights Gohan
Goku: “Magic, huh? He’s way stronger than I thought, ain’t he?”
Vegeta: “Hmph…Even so, he’s not an opponent [he? we?] can’t win against. [Gohan]’s so pathetic…So much so that he was stronger as a brat…”
Goku: “He really did slack off!”

When you look at the fight, Dabura is tougher with magic rather than stronger.

 

[Six Trails]

Tougher makes more sense in that context anyway. Why would having magic mean that you have a higher battle power?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Especially when it's shitty magic that does no damage....

Based on what we know, Dabra has no actual Chi to sense, so I see no connection to raw power.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Here are the great benefits of going with Viz...
-Popo just saying Kami is better than him, instead of ''far, far better'': This allows you to make a more reasonable Early DB PL list, putting
Popo at least above BOZ Krillin.
-Piccolo saying Kaioshin is a different order of being instead of a different dimension: After Piccolo shitting his pants, Kaioshin never did
anything to back up the reputation Herms Piccolo gave him; on the contrary, there was evidence of even Base Saiyans outclassing him.
-Vegeta just saying Gohan was better 7 years ago, instead of ''far, far better'': Makes more sense to me, since i don't see chi atrophizing
that easily. Also, the Herms statement makes us give a huge gap to MSSJ Kid Gohan/MSSJ CGs Goku, which was never clearly stated by
anyone; on the contrary, it was only after SSJ2 when Gohan clearly outclassed his father.
-Absence of the quote about Fat Buu's power being shared when he split: Nothing ever backed this up. After the sweet Buu was expelled
from Kid Buu, nobody noted any power difference; the feeling i got is AT had the same pre split Fat Buu in mind during that fight.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I thought the "Sweetness stands little chance against concentrated wrath" was as bad as Oozaru Vegeta's line.

 

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What was Oozaru Vegeta's line?

 

[Papasmurf]

Ozaru Vegeta's 10x line getting cut out was one of the reasons I'd have a good laugh everytime people called the Viz translations excellent back in 2006. The translations are basically no more accurate than BOG and FNF's dub, and those have to pay mind to lip syncing.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Vegeta: "A Saiyan is most powerful in its ape form! A Saiyan that still has its tail!"

The Kaio-Ken x5 line was omitted and replaced with this dumb line:

"The only way to win..is to increase my power!"

Don't get me wrong. I like Viz's translation, but it's not without its own issues.

 

[Papasmurf]

They also like to add in stupid shit like Vegeta was "potentially" stronger than Trunks in the android arc or Piccolo "slowing Boo down" when the original merely said his power dropped greatly when he went from Gotenks-Boo to Piccolo boo

Also, what was the point of making Majin Boo Dijin Boo? Everybody in the west and east knows him by his original name, and they've even used Kaioshin alongside lord of lords, so it's not like they hate using the Japanese term or something

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Lol. Remember when we were thinking of all of the dumb shit that happened throughout the story?

I think I'm going to do that with the translations.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah one thing I can name off the top of my head is Piccolo's weird Yoda speak in the Saiyan arc which mysteriously disappears later....

Not even his 4000000 year old dad spoke like that

 

[Pyro]

I wish he'd have talked like that throughout the manga. Ole English is his thing.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

"What say you? Know you not the one whom show such insolence!"

"Hmmmm. He thinks himself that powerful."

No idea what they were thinking.