Dragon Ball power levels ignoring scouters

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Son Goku arc

Puar 1.5

Oolong 2

Bulma 3

Farmer 5

Mr. Satan 7

Videl 8

Spopovich 10

Yamu 10

Gorilla 10

Tiger 11

Lion 12

Bear 14

Sabre-tooth Tiger 16

Pterdactyl 21

Bear Bandit 25

Kuririn 30

Yamcha 45
~ Rogafufuken 52.5

Son Goku 50
~ Hungry 44
~ W/ o Tail 40

GyuMao 95

Muten Roshi 148



21st Budokai

Orin Temple Bullies 45

Bacterian 56

Yamcha 60
~ Rogafufuken 70

Giran 80

Ran Fan 87

Kuririn ( Initial ) 75
~ Full Power 100

Namu 145

Roshi 148

Son Goku ( W/o Tail ) 110
~ W/ Tail 150



Muscle Tower

Colonel Silver 60

Ninja Murasaki 93

Metallic 125

Son Goku ( initial ) 133
~ Full Power 150

Android #8 170



General Blue

Kuririn 100

Pirate Robot 120

General Blue 135

Son Goku ( Holding Back ) 150
~ Full Power 168.75



Tao Pai Pai

General Blue 135

Bora 140

Son Goku 168.75

Tao Pai Pai ( Initial ) 300
~ Full Power 350

Son Goku ( Post Karin ) 400

Karin 450



Uranai Baba

Dracula Man 53

Invisible Man 55

Yamcha 60
~ Rogafufuken 70

Kuririn 100

Mummy 170

Akkuman 255

Son Gohan 387

Son Goku 400



22nd Budokai

Panputt 170

King Chappa 450

Chaozu 500

Yamcha 520
~ Rogafufuken 690
~ Kamehameha 780

Kuririn 530
~ Kamehameha ( Untrained ) 700

Tsuru 780

Roshi ( vs Ten; Initial ) 650
~ vs Ten ( Serious ) 860
~ Full Power ( Unseen ) 960

Tenshinhan ( Initial ) 520
~ Powered Up ( vs Yamcha's Rogafufuken ) 710
~ Powered Up 2 ( vs Yamcha's Kamehameha ) 812.5
~ Powered Up 3 ( vs Roshi ) 860
~ Powered Up 4 ( Initial vs Goku's Match Level ) 1,100
~ Full Power 1,225

Son Goku ( Initial ) 540
~ Little More Serious ( vs Kuririn ) 780
~ Full Match Level 1,000
~ Battle Level 1,250



King Piccolo ( Flashback )

Roshi ( Young ) 1,080

Tsuru ( Young ) 1,080

Mutaito 1,187.5



The Demon King Piccolo

Cymbal 690

Tambourine 1,000

Yajirobe ( Warm Up ) 700
~ Full Power 1,100

Karin 1,200

Son Goku ( vs Yajirobe ) 780
~ Full Power 1,250
~ Kamehameha 1,875

Piccolo Daimao Old ( Initial ) 1,187.5
~ Less Than Half 2,800
~ Full Power ( Unseen ) 7,000



King Piccolo Takes The World

Tenshinhan 1,225

Drum 2,000

Piccolo Daimao Young ( Initial ) 9,000
~ Full Power 13,500

Son Goku ( Post Sacred Water Initial ) 10,800
~ Full Power 13,850

Mr. Popo 24,000

Kami-sama 50,000



23rd Budokai

Chapa-o 650

Chaozu 5,800

Yajirobe 6,500

Chi Chi 7,000

Cyborg Tao 9,000

Yamcha 11,350
~ Sokidan

Kuririn 11,750
~ Kamehameha 17,625

Tenshinhan ( Initial ) 13,850
~ Full Power 16,000

Kami ( Shen ) 45,000

Piccolo Jr. ( Initial ) 12,500
~ Powered Up ( vs Kuririn ) 13,850
~ vs Shen 50,000
~ Warm Up ( vs Goku ) 50,000
~ Full Power 98,000
~ Bakurikimaha 250,000

Son Goku ( Weighted )
---------------Speed 13,850
---------------Strength 16,000
~ W/ o Weights ( vs Ten ) 24,000
~ Tenshinhan's estimation 36,000
~ Warm Up ( vs Piccolo ) 50,000
~ Full Power 100,000
~ Super Kamehameha 222,000
 

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1. Why do you have saberoth tiger above bear? Unless you don't mean the one Krillin knocked out, because that one was small.
2. Metallic too far from 21st TB top tier.
3. Pirate Robot too weak.
4. So, Goku had no gains from 22nd TB?
 

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1- Saber-toothed Tiger is bigger than a bear I'd say, though that Kulilin knocked out was not that big. Maybe that was a S. gracilis.
2- Well Goku was not going all out against Metallic and even so had an advantage. It happens that Metallic is is very resistant. I have Metallic at 88% of Goku's full power, what is pretty high for him considering that Goku ( Holding Back ) >= Metallic
3- Why is Pirate Robot too weak ? He is considerably above Kuririn ( 21st Budokai ).
4- Zenkai you mean ? Nah, I don't believe that there were any of them but I'm fine with someone who believes. I don't think Mutaito/Roshi ( Young ) must be stronger than Goku ( 22nd Budokai ); they must be only stronger than Roshi ( 22nd Budokai ).
 

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2. I don't think Goku held back much against Metallic.
3. I think Pirate Robot was close to Goku.
4. Not a zenkai, but he should get a small increase.
 

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Where are Bacterian and Ran Fan in the 21st?
 

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Smoker said:
Where are Bacterian and Ran Fan in the 21st?

I don't know where to put them. I'd have Bacterian a bit weaker than Yamcha and Ran Fan equal to Giran, maybe a bit stronger.
 

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Ran Fan seems too close to Krillin now imo.
 

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Smoker said:
Ran Fan seems too close to Krillin now imo.

Well she is 87% of him so Kuririn would be able to beat her without much problems. Ran Fan was able to hurt Namu and dodged a serious attack of him. Namu should be far stronger than Kuririn.
 

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I think Colonel Silver should be > Bacterian. He got a compliment from a potentially stronger Goku, whereas 21st Goku didn't find Bacterian to be anything special.
 

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Smoker said:
I think Colonel Silver should be > Bacterian. He got a compliment from a potentially stronger Goku, whereas 21st Goku didn't find Bacterian to be anything special.

Where would you put him ? Stronger than Yamcha ( 21st Budokai ) ? Maybe on Giran's level ?
 

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Well, I think you have Bacterian a little close to Yamcha first of all. I think Silver either being on par with Yamcha or slightly below him would be good.
 

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Smoker said:
Well, I think you have Bacterian a little close to Yamcha first of all. I think Silver either being on par with Yamcha or slightly below him would be good.

Well actually Silver has not been complimented by Goku. He only showed a great speed to steal Goku's stuff.
 

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I don't think Ran Fan is anything special. Once Namu stopped letting her manipulate him, he easily one shots her. Everything else beforehand can easily be explained as Namu being flustered by Ran Fan's womanly ways.
 

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ahill1 said:
Smoker said:
Well, I think you have Bacterian a little close to Yamcha first of all. I think Silver either being on par with Yamcha or slightly below him would be good.

Well actually Silver has not been complimented by Goku. He only showed a great speed to steal Goku's stuff.
Interesting. The translation I read in the past differs from Viz, despite being closer to Herms in most scenarios. In it, Goku says he has to keep his guard up around Silver after he takes his bag back.

I'll concede on the compliment, but the speed surpasses Bacterian's, that is for sure.
 

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Smoker said:
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Smoker said:
Well, I think you have Bacterian a little close to Yamcha first of all. I think Silver either being on par with Yamcha or slightly below him would be good.

Well actually Silver has not been complimented by Goku. He only showed a great speed to steal Goku's stuff.
Interesting. The translation I read in the past differs from Viz, despite being closer to Herms in most scenarios. In it, Goku says he has to keep his guard up around Silver after he takes his bag back.

I'll concede on the compliment, but the speed surpasses Bacterian's, that is for sure.

I don't know about Herms, but in Viz, after Goku takes his bag back he said :

" Are you tryin' to make me mad ?! "

Bacterian 56
Silver 60

What do you think ?
 

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That looks good to me. Because I'd say the Rogafufuken should be superior to Silver's speed.
 

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Okay... fixed. What do you think about Metallic's power level ?
 

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Personally I'd have Metallic around Namu's level, but I believe Goku had a zenkai after the 21st. It looks good based on your levels.
 

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I don't think Ran Fan is anything special. Once Namu stopped letting her manipulate him, he easily one shots her. Everything else beforehand can easily be explained as Namu being flustered by Ran Fan's womanly ways.

Where would you put Ran Fan ?
 
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