Early Dragon Ball Kamehameha

[SSJ2]

How significant is the amplification in early DB? Given the destructive power shown by the KHH, it should be amplified well above the likes of Yamcha’s WFF, but it is seriously limited by the amplification we saw in the Saiyan arc (>2x). Goku was able to match the KHH of the man who created the attack and had perfected it for years in the 21st. Is something like a 1.33x amp reasonable?

 

[GSM123]

I don’t think there should even be an amp to begin with. Yamcha just describes the Kamehameha as condensing one’s latent power into the palm of their hands and firing it.

 

[SSJ2]

Would regular ki blasts not deal the same damage if there was no amp?

 

[GSM123]

Because Ki Blasts are differently shaped and have different qualities from a continous wave. Goku did use the Kamehameha quite often to not fall off arena for example, which would have never worked if he just fired a blast. This also works in fights: Goku would need to be much stronger to deflect Vegeta's Garlic Gun with a mere bullet instead of a beam.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

1 million times

 

[ahill1]

1.33x seems fine as of the 22nd Budokai to me. Yamcha's Rogawhohoken seems to pack some kind of amp and the fact that he labeled the one used against Ten Shin Han as "2.0" might mean it's perfected above the initial. The KMHMH from Yamcha seems to be his trump card, so it's even above the Rogawhowhoken 2.0.

The Super KMHMH should have even more of an amp and was described as a huge one. Still, somewhat below the one employed against Raditz, which reached the 2.2x mark.

Initial KMHMH (used by Goku at Pilaf's domains) -- 1.05x
21st Budokai (used by Goku and Roshi) -- 1.15x
Yamcha Rogawhohoken -- 1.1x
Yamcha Rogawhowhoken 2.0 -- 1.2x
KMHMH at the 22nd Budokai (maybe Goku's and Kame's contain a multiplier bigger than Yamcha's but I will assume not for simplicity) -- 1.33x
Super KMHMH -- 1.65x


It's weird that the Super KMHMH containing all this amp didn't have an effect on Piccolo Junior, though. Some ppl like to assume Piccolo's blast had a cushion effect, softening the blast's strength.

 

[SSJ2]

Nice write up ahill. As for the Super KHH not damaging Piccolo, Kaioken x4 Goku did relatively no damage to Vegeta in the Saiyan saga. I'd have to read the 23rd again to compare them, but damage from ki attacks seems inconsistent at times.

 

[GSM123]

Piccolo blocked the blast, tou can actually see he got in a defensive position after the smoke dissipates. Piccolo’s survival feat seems more realistic than Vegeta’s based on that.