Explaining Goku's/Vegeta's ''zenkais'&#3

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I think my theory below makes the most sense.
Zenkai was introduced as a substansial boost Saiyans get when they survive a near death battle wound. Later, though, we see them getting them even from minor injuries and they're way too large. My explanation is those boosts were not zenkais.
The only times we saw Saiyans being really beaten to an inch of their life were...
-Goku/Vegeta after their fight
-Vegeta after Zarbon
Those were really beatings that could explain a zenkai and the boosts were like 1.2x-1.33x (i guess we can
deduce all true zenkais are around that range and not insanely large). After that...
-Vegeta gets beaten up by Recoome. He's injured, but not near death; he can even stand up. I guess he got
a small increase because he fought to his limits, but not a zenkai. That small increase, though, was enough
to break the wall of what a normal Saiyan is supposed to be capable of. As a result, his power started
continuously increasing for the next few hours, slowly evolving him into a Super Saiyan (his heart is what
hindered the final transformation when he fought Freeza).
-The same stuff goes for Goku. His body (when it was possessed by Ginyu) only received a few hits from
Vegeta; he didn't really look near death. I guess we can say the slow proccess of the steady power
increase had already began when he landed on Namek, or maybe it started after the hits from Vegeta,
which could count as a fight to the limits which gives a small increase.
-As for Gohan, his power is the most tricky. Unless Freeza's foot snapped his neck or something, i don't see
how he could be considered near death when Dende healed him. Maybe the increase came from Guru's
boost, which hadn't ended yet. Or maybe his rage became greater the second time he attacked Freeza.
 

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Toriyama pretty much overused this zenkai thing and it felt so unnesessary after the Ginyu Force arrived. For example, Goku went from being weaker than Captain Ginyu into surpassing him[LOL Freeza], Piccolo and Freeza's form by a simple zenkai. Good thing Toriyama dropped it after Freeza Arc and have to bring it again for Cell to get stronger and rival Gohan.
 

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My headcanon to explain this ridiculous Zenkai power-scaling (if you can call it that, even Super looks good by comparison) is that when a Saiyan's power becomes around 30-40,000, his boosts from training and Zenkais skyrocket at the body tries to fast-track him towards becoming a Super Saiyan.
 

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There's no logic to the boosts at all, but at least the "closing in on the Super Saiyan" theory is supported by Vegeta saying he was getting close to one himself to Jheese and Freeza. That still doesn't explain how Goku got a greater boost from the healing chamber than Vegeta got when he was over 400,000, so yeah, just plot convenient bullshit.
 

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It's really surprising how Cell received a Zenkai which could implied that he still hasn't reach his limit. :troll
 

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Fearless Hit said:
It's really surprising how Cell received a Zenkai which could implied that he still hasn't reach his limit. :troll

I know!

Zenkais made asspulls interesting, now we complain about them like losers on the internet too obsessed with a children's cartoon.
 

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Fearless Hit said:
It's really surprising how Cell received a Zenkai which could implied that he still hasn't reach his limit. :troll

Maybe Cell didn't get a zenkai either, he just unlocked his SSJ2 form.
 

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TheallpowerfulPuiPui said:
Fearless Hit said:
It's really surprising how Cell received a Zenkai which could implied that he still hasn't reach his limit. :troll

I know!

Zenkais made asspulls interesting, now we complain about them like losers on the internet too obsessed with a children's cartoon.
I don't complain, i fix things. :CC
 

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Fearless Hit said:
It's really surprising how Cell received a Zenkai which could implied that he still hasn't reach his limit. :troll

I like to think cell got a zenkai becuase he was made from goku's cells from the saiyan saga, and thus still got zenkai's
 

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sei'taer said:
Fearless Hit said:
It's really surprising how Cell received a Zenkai which could implied that he still hasn't reach his limit. :troll

I like to think cell got a zenkai becuase he was made from goku's cells from the saiyan saga, and thus still got zenkai's
Then that means more Zenkais from 8K to 3M? :troll
 

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