Franky (Water 7) vs Arlong

[ahill1]

Franky from when he first appeared in the series vs Arlong. Who wins?

 

[Symbiote]

Franky stomps.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Franky was capable of putting up a good fight against Luffy, and this was before Luffy's power temporarily went down from his confusion at Robin's actions. Franky stomps unless the fight takes place near water, in which case Arlong may have a chance if he can drag Franky in.

 

[ahill1]

and this was before Luffy's power temporarily went down from his confusion at Robin's actions

Did it go down?

 

[SSJ2]

Franky can one shot him.

 

[Pocket-God]

Can anyone short of top tier baroque works characters do anything to Franky?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Did it go down?

There were comments from the Straw Hats of their trust in Robin returning restoring their strength, as well as them saying they weren't the same Straw Hats CP9 fought at Iceburg's Mansion by the time of their Enies Lobby rematch. This is proven to be more than just a figure of speech, since Luffy went from being trapped between two buildings to easily pushing them apart once he learnt Robin hadn't betrayed them.

 

[ahill1]

Did it go down?

There were comments from the Straw Hats of their trust in Robin returning restoring their strength, as well as them saying they weren't the same Straw Hats CP9 fought at Iceburg's Mansion by the time of their Enies Lobby rematch. This is proven to be more than just a figure of speech, since Luffy went from being trapped between two buildings to easily pushing them apart once he learnt Robin hadn't betrayed them.

I always assumed they got stronger simply by overcoming another challenge, which goes hand in hand with Nami [or Zoro?] stating they ought to get stronger from island to island and that Usopp is no exception. There's no reason to assume Luffy was weaker in the mansion at Water 7 than he should have been if Robin was at their side and is instead simply a case of them receiving a power up rather than being in the right state of mind and therefore fighting better imo.

As for Luffy pushing those buildings apart, well it was more a resolve boost imo, the same way he kept Arlong from moving his Kiribachi (when he didn't show anything like this before) or punched through Crocodile's desert spada while he stated he'd be torn apart from it before. He knew from Nami Robin would be sacrificing herself for them and therefore pulled strength out of himself to do what he normally couldn't do.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Did it go down?

There were comments from the Straw Hats of their trust in Robin returning restoring their strength, as well as them saying they weren't the same Straw Hats CP9 fought at Iceburg's Mansion by the time of their Enies Lobby rematch. This is proven to be more than just a figure of speech, since Luffy went from being trapped between two buildings to easily pushing them apart once he learnt Robin hadn't betrayed them.

I always assumed they got stronger simply by overcoming another challenge, which goes hand in hand with Nami [or Zoro?] stating they ought to get stronger from island to island and that Usopp is no exception. There's no reason to assume Luffy was weaker in the mansion at Water 7 than he should have been if Robin was at their side and is instead simply a case of them receiving a power up rather than being in the right state of mind and therefore fighting better imo.

As for Luffy pushing those buildings apart, well it was more a resolve boost imo, the same way he kept Arlong from moving his Kiribachi (when he didn't show anything like this before) or punched through Crocodile's desert spada while he stated he'd be torn apart from it before. He knew from Nami Robin would be sacrificing herself for them and therefore pulled strength out of himself to do what he normally couldn't do.

Unless you think that Paulie, Lulu, and Tilestone are all > Water 7 Luffy, then Luffy not being in the right state of mind there is what makes the most sense there.

 

[ahill1]

There were comments from the Straw Hats of their trust in Robin returning restoring their strength, as well as them saying they weren't the same Straw Hats CP9 fought at Iceburg's Mansion by the time of their Enies Lobby rematch. This is proven to be more than just a figure of speech, since Luffy went from being trapped between two buildings to easily pushing them apart once he learnt Robin hadn't betrayed them.

I always assumed they got stronger simply by overcoming another challenge, which goes hand in hand with Nami [or Zoro?] stating they ought to get stronger from island to island and that Usopp is no exception. There's no reason to assume Luffy was weaker in the mansion at Water 7 than he should have been if Robin was at their side and is instead simply a case of them receiving a power up rather than being in the right state of mind and therefore fighting better imo.

As for Luffy pushing those buildings apart, well it was more a resolve boost imo, the same way he kept Arlong from moving his Kiribachi (when he didn't show anything like this before) or punched through Crocodile's desert spada while he stated he'd be torn apart from it before. He knew from Nami Robin would be sacrificing herself for them and therefore pulled strength out of himself to do what he normally couldn't do.

Unless you think that Paulie, Lulu, and Tilestone are all > Water 7 Luffy, then Luffy not being in the right state of mind there is what makes the most sense there.

Why? Did they show better feats than Luffy?

 

[Diamond Ryan]

I always assumed they got stronger simply by overcoming another challenge, which goes hand in hand with Nami [or Zoro?] stating they ought to get stronger from island to island and that Usopp is no exception. There's no reason to assume Luffy was weaker in the mansion at Water 7 than he should have been if Robin was at their side and is instead simply a case of them receiving a power up rather than being in the right state of mind and therefore fighting better imo.

As for Luffy pushing those buildings apart, well it was more a resolve boost imo, the same way he kept Arlong from moving his Kiribachi (when he didn't show anything like this before) or punched through Crocodile's desert spada while he stated he'd be torn apart from it before. He knew from Nami Robin would be sacrificing herself for them and therefore pulled strength out of himself to do what he normally couldn't do.

Unless you think that Paulie, Lulu, and Tilestone are all > Water 7 Luffy, then Luffy not being in the right state of mind there is what makes the most sense there.

Why? Did they show better feats than Luffy?

They were getting the upperhand on him in combat.

 

[ahill1]

Unless you think that Paulie, Lulu, and Tilestone are all > Water 7 Luffy, then Luffy not being in the right state of mind there is what makes the most sense there.

Why? Did they show better feats than Luffy?

They were getting the upperhand on him in combat.

That was because Luffy wasn't fighting back. He stated he hadn't a reason to fight them, therefore he was just receiving their attacks and not reciprocating. I mean, Luffy's situation in the fight didn't seem to change even after learning Robin was the one who shotted Iceberg.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Can anyone short of top tier baroque works characters do anything to Franky?

If they find out about his weakness (back being vulnerable), I can see Mr. 1 and maybe Mr. 2 being able to defeat him. If they don't exploit it, however, Franky would probably be too durable for them to take down, unless including Alabasta Crocodile into the mix.

 

[ahill1]

Eh, I think I was kind of stupid to make this topic... even the not-tottaly-serious/not-resove-boosted Luffy seemed to have been already fighting on equal terms with Arlong, whereas Franky was apparently holding his own with a Luffy that had overcomed rather tough challenges fighting Crocodile and Enel, although the latter to a lesser extent. I'd think Arlong wouldn't even have been able to put up a fight against base Water 7 Luffy, considering the boost Luffy seems to get from island to island seems to be rathet significant.