Freeza > base Saiyajins list

[ahill1]

Decided to do a list encompassing the Freeza > base Saiyajins (boo arc) PoV. Let me know in the comments.

Mecha Freeza's arrival

Mecha Freeza : 140,000,000
King Cold : 100,000,000

Future Trunks : 3,200,000
--SSJ : 160,000,000
Son Goku ; 3,600,000
--SSJ : 180,000,000

Vegeta : 3,000,000
Piccolo : 2,800,000

Son Gohan : 575,000

Kuririn : 83,000
Tenshinhan : 50,000
Yamcha : 35,000


Androids' arrival

Yamcha : 60,000
Tenshinhan : 80,000
Kuririn : 100,000

Son Gohan : 4,000,000

Android #19 : 120,000,000
--post absorptions : 155,000,000
Android #20 : 140,000,000
--post absorptions : 170,000,000

Piccolo : 200,000,000

Future Trunks : 4,800,000
--SSJ : 240,000,000

Son Goku : 5,200,000
--SSJ : 260,000,000

Vegeta : 5,400,000
--SSJ : 270,000,000

Android #18 : 360,000,000
Android #17 : 400,000,000


Cell's seek for perfection

Imperfect Cell : 300,000,000

Piccolo (post merging with kami) : 360,000,000
--no weighted clothes : 400,000,000

Android #17 : 400,000,000

Android #16 : 530,000,000

Imperfect Cell (posg absorbing humans) : 540,000,000

Semi Perfect Cell (initially) : 720,000,000


Vegeta and Trunks complete their training

Semi Perfect Cell (full power) : 830,000,000

Vegeta : 15,000,000
--SSJ : 750,000,000
--SSJg2 : 1,000,000,000

Future Trunks ; 14,000,000
--SSJ : 700,000,000
--SSJg2 : 933,000,00
--SSJg3 : 1,600,000,000

Perfect Cell (vs vegeta and trunks) : 1,400,000,000

Son Goku SSJ (post rosat, 50%) : 1,400,000,000



Cell Games


Yamcha : 60,000
Tenshinhan : 80,000
Kuririn : 100,000

Android #16 : 530,000,000

Piccolo : 1,500,000,000

Vegeta : 36,000,000
--SSJ : 1,800,000,000

Future Trunks : 34,000,000
--SSJ : 1,700,000,000

Cell Junio(s) : 1,900,000,000


Son Goku : 56,000,000
--SSJ : 2,800,000,000

Perfect Cell (vs Goku) : 3,200,000,000

Son Gohan : 64,000,000
--SSJ : 3,200,000,000

Son Gohan SSJ2 : 7,500,000,000 ---> some rage boost included

Perfect Cell (full power) : 4,500,000,000

Super Perfect Cell : 7,000,000,000


Boo saga


-- 25th Budokai

Videl : 8

Spopovitch : 10
Yamcha : 60,000
Kuririn : 100,000


Android #18 : 360,000,000

Piccolo : 1,800,000,000

Son Goten : 48,000,000
--SSJ : 2,400,000,000
Chibi Trunks : 50,000,000
--SSJ : 2,500,000,000

Son Gohan : 56,000,000
--SSJ : 2,800,000,000

Kibito : 50,000,000
East Kaioshin : 2,800,000,000

Babidi's ship

Pui Pui : 180,000

Yakon : 90,000,000

Dabura : 4,500,000,000

Son Gohan SSJ1.5 : 4,200,000,000 (he was in a transient state)

Vegeta : 70,000,000
--SSJ : 3,500,000,000
--SSJ2 : 7,000,000,000
---> post Majin : 8,400,000,000

Son Goku : 84,000,000
--SSJ : 4,200,000,000
--SSJ2 : 8,400,000,000

Fat Boo awakens

Fat Boo : 28,000,000,000

Son Goku Super Saiya-jin 3 : 33,600,000,000


Gotenks SSJ (post RoSaT) : 33,600,000,000
-- SSJ3 : 268,800,000,000

Super Boo : 268,800,000,000

Ultimate Gohan : 400,000,000,000

Bootenks : 537,600,000,000

Boohan : 668,800,000,000

Vegetto SSJ : 1,000,000,000,000

 

[SSJ2]

Decided to do a list encompassing the Freeza > base Saiyajins (boo arc) PoV. Let me know in the comments.

Mecha Freeza's arrival
Son Gohan : 575,000

What is this nonsense?

 

[ahill1]

Decided to do a list encompassing the Freeza > base Saiyajins (boo arc) PoV. Let me know in the comments.

Mecha Freeza's arrival
Son Gohan : 575,000

What is this nonsense?

Well, I'm not sure if Gohan is up there with initial 2nd form Freeza anymore. Vegeta worded his statement as luck having turning to their side "just a little bit" post Gohan's Zenkai increase... I think that's like saying "well, things are a little better than they were before". He also experienced earlier how Gohan got a multifold boost with his anger, so it wouldn't be a stretch to assume he'd be taking into account a scenario in which this could happen. Furthermore, Vegeta was seen laughing when he witnessed Gohan's increase... surely he wouldn't feel a little more shaken up if Gohan surpassed him by THAT much?

Gohan post his first rage increase rivaled initial 2nd form Freeza, while his next rage increase provided him a necessary increase to press 3rd form Freeza... so I tend to give [post recovering] Gohan a close gap as the one between his both times enraged self... I was even a little generous in buffing it a little past the 2x, allowing Gohan to at least surpass Vegeta.

But the "Freeza > base" belief is one I don't subscribe to. I will soon do a list without assigning SSJ a set multiplier. The multiplier will vary from 2x to 50x depending on what I see fit for each scenario, which I find to be the approach that best suits my current beliefs. Although I'd still likely keep the same value to post Zenkai Gohan.

 

[SSJ2]

This is the same Vegeta who said "this is the end" after blasting Freeza from behind. If Gohan is only marginally stronger than Vegeta, I highly doubt he'd see that as a positive. He also knew that Gohan's rage wasn't controllable, so I can't see him counting on Gohan to become enraged.

 

[SSJ2]

I'll keep an eye out for your new list. A variable multiplier isn't my style but I'm curious to see how you go about it.

 

[ahill1]

This is the same Vegeta who said "this is the end" after blasting Freeza from behind. If Gohan is only marginally stronger than Vegeta, I highly doubt he'd see that as a positive. He also knew that Gohan's rage wasn't controllable, so I can't see him counting on Gohan to become enraged.

Well, Gohan quickly snapped against Freeza moments ago, so that's a possibility.

Worth noting that Vegeta was really flustered and annoyed when seeing how much Piccolo powered up. Gohan drew a smile followed by a sweat from him. I don't think Gohan is reaching close Piccolo's level sans rage.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I think Gohan should be stronger than his enraged self based on the fact his rage power shouldn’t go away to begin with. His anger is a form of potential unlock, and the fact Guru already unlocked his potential anyway should mean the rage boost is more of a speed up on the process. Add a Zenkai on the top and you’re good to go with 1,000,000+ Gohan.

Granted Freeza smacked him down good, but he powered up while Gohan lost his balls there.

 

[ahill1]

That sounds like a fishy reasoning if you ask me.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

You’re fishy. [mention]Super Saiyan[/mention] tell him we’re right and he’s not.

But honestly, it did sound better in my head than on the screen.

 

[SSJ2]

I'm the only one who is right. Both of you are factually incorrect and drastically off in your assessments. Gohan is factually 800,000 post zenkai so you are both equally wrong.