Future Zamasu vs Golden Frieza (tired)

supercat

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I would say Future Zamasu takes this, seeing as how he was able to tangle with SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta, both of whom were likely far stronger than the time they faced off against Frieza. I'm even inclined to place Future Zamasu on par with Golden Frieza (RoF) prior to tiring out.

SSB Goku / SSB Vegeta (vs Goku black and Zamasu) > SSJR Goku Black >> SSB Goku / SSB Vegeta (vs Goku Black initially) > / = SSB Goku / SSB Vegeta (Universe 6 tournament) > Future Zamasu = Golden Frieza (RoF) >> SSB Goku / Vegeta (RoF) > Golden Frieza (tired)
 

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manga-wise, Freeza stomps. Future Zamasu is at best on post-God SSJ2~SSJ3 tier in the manga. In the anime, Future Zamasu even without immortality probably rapes because of Freeza's stamina falling so badly that even base Vegeta managed to repel a blast from him, plus pre-Rosat Vegeta rapestomped him yet a similarly injured Vegeta in the 2nd fight between Black/Zamasu and the group was stomped by Zamasu in the FT arc.
 

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Don't really have much to add from what Kenshi said. Manga-wise, Zamasu's at best slightly below SS3 Goku/Enhanced SS2 Trunks, whereas anime-wise he's relevant enough to SSB tier that he'd certainly outlast Freezie Pop.
 

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How powerful do you have manga Base Goku?

Do you feel the multipliers for SSJ1-3 are what they were in Z?
 

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supercat said:
How powerful do you have manga Base Goku?
Capable of soloing Z and GT.

Do you feel the multipliers for SSJ1-3 are what they were in Z?
Nowhere near such, considering Goku VS Hit showed his SSJ form wasn't much less than 10% of SSB Vegeta. As far as DBS multipliers, go, I'd say...

SSJ = 2.5x base
SS2 = 5x base
SS3 = 10x base
 

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Yeah soloing Z sounds about right. I feel manga Base Goku would be on par with a hypothetical SSJ3 Vegetto from the Buu saga while anime Base Goku would wreck that same version of Vegetto in a matter of seconds.

I actually like those multipliers. I never really had a number for them, but a 50x increase just doesn't seem all that plausible at this point.
 

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