G4 SUPER SAIYAN FULL POWERED KAIOKEN x4 vs ASCENDED SAIYAN SS2.

[VampireWicked]

Timeline The Cell Games.

SuperSaiyan FullPowered with Quadruple Kaioken Goku
vs
AscendedSaiyan (Or SuperSaiyan 2) Gohan.


Who wins?

 

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Gohan wins easily.

 

[VampireWicked]

Gohan wins easily.

Why?

 

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Gohan wins easily.

Why?

FPSSJ Goku- 72
PC (Goku)- 80
FPSSJ Gohan/PC (full speed)- 100
PC (max)- 150
SSJ2 Gohan- 250

 

[VampireWicked]

Gohan wins easily.

Why?

FPSSJ Goku- 72
PC (Goku)- 80
FPSSJ Gohan/PC (full speed)- 100
PC (max)- 150
SSJ2 Gohan- 250

You did factor in SuperSaiyanFullPowered with a triple Kaioken stacked right?

 

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You did factor in SuperSaiyanFullPowered with a triple Kaioken stacked right?

Yes.

 

[VampireWicked]

You did factor in SuperSaiyanFullPowered with a triple Kaioken stacked right?

Yes.

Okay SuperSaiyan FullPowered Gohan was stronger than SuperSaiyan FullPowered Goku, but not by much.
AscendedSaiyan (SS2) multiplier is 2 right.

Now if Goku isn't that far behind Gohan.

Gohan as FullPowered x 2 = AscendedSaiyan
Goku as FullPowered applies Kaioken x 3 = FullPowered Triple Kaioken

How is Gohan twice as strong with a max, where are you getting the extra 70 ?




Edit.
Lets make it a little closer.
Quadruple Kaioken.

 

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You did factor in SuperSaiyanFullPowered with a triple Kaioken stacked right?

Yes.

Okay SuperSaiyan FullPowered Gohan was stronger than SuperSaiyan FullPowered Goku, but not by much.
AscendedSaiyan (SS2) multiplier is 2 right.

Now if Goku isn't that far behind Gohan.

Gohan as FullPowered x 2 = AscendedSaiyan
Goku as FullPowered applies Kaioken x 3 = FullPowered Triple Kaioken

How is Gohan twice as strong with a max, where are you getting the extra 70 ?




Edit.
Lets make it a little closer.
Quadruple Kaioken.

SSJ2 is more than 2x in my books.

 

[VampireWicked]

Yes.

Okay SuperSaiyan FullPowered Gohan was stronger than SuperSaiyan FullPowered Goku, but not by much.
AscendedSaiyan (SS2) multiplier is 2 right.

Now if Goku isn't that far behind Gohan.

Gohan as FullPowered x 2 = AscendedSaiyan
Goku as FullPowered applies Kaioken x 3 = FullPowered Triple Kaioken

How is Gohan twice as strong with a max, where are you getting the extra 70 ?




Edit.
Lets make it a little closer.
Quadruple Kaioken.

SSJ2 is more than 2x in my books.

What do you have it in your books ?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I see no valid reason to go against the SEG statement of SS2 = 2x SSJ, so Goku oneshots.

 

[ahill1]

I see no valid reason to go against the SEG statement of SS2 = 2x SSJ, so Goku oneshots.

Well, kid Gohan seems to receive an additional boost due to the rage boost.

 

[VampireWicked]

I see no valid reason to go against the SEG statement of SS2 = 2x SSJ, so Goku oneshots.

Well, kid Gohan seems to receive an additional boost due to the rage boost.

Rage Boosts aren't exclusive to Gohan anymore.

 

[ahill1]

I see no valid reason to go against the SEG statement of SS2 = 2x SSJ, so Goku oneshots.

Well, kid Gohan seems to receive an additional boost due to the rage boost.

Rage Boosts aren't exclusive to Gohan anymore.

Yeah, but Vegeta only benefited from it on BoG.

 

[VampireWicked]

Well, kid Gohan seems to receive an additional boost due to the rage boost.

Rage Boosts aren't exclusive to Gohan anymore.

Yeah, but Vegeta only benefited from it on BoG.

As i said not exclusive to Gohan anymore.
Broly, Vegeta, Goku.

But technically Goku, Vegeta, pretty much all Saiyans who achieved SuperSaiyan & AscendedSaiyan benefited from Rage Boosts.

 

[ahill1]

Rage Boosts aren't exclusive to Gohan anymore.

Yeah, but Vegeta only benefited from it on BoG.

As i said not exclusive to Gohan anymore.
Broly, Vegeta, Goku.

But technically Goku, Vegeta, pretty much all Saiyans who achieved SuperSaiyan & AscendedSaiyan benefited from Rage Boosts.

All of which haven't benefited from rage boosts in the original series. Broly isn't even from the original run.

 

[VampireWicked]

Yeah, but Vegeta only benefited from it on BoG.

As i said not exclusive to Gohan anymore.
Broly, Vegeta, Goku.

But technically Goku, Vegeta, pretty much all Saiyans who achieved SuperSaiyan & AscendedSaiyan benefited from Rage Boosts.

All of which haven't benefited from rage boosts in the original series. Broly isn't even from the original run.

I know they didn't benefit from it in Z, but as I said before not exclusive to Gohan anymore.

Anyway Rage is part of what triggered the initial SuperSaiyan Transformation to begin with.

Not counting that, Gohan was the only Saiyan character that got really angry anyway.
I mean blind rage angry.

It wasn't really a well put together concept to begin with.
It's like saying only Gohan can throw purple energy blasts because no others did, not can't but because they just didn't.
SUPER actually showed how RageBoosts effect Saiyans, how it isn't a unique hidden ability, & it's nearly limitless.
And again again not exclusive to Gohan anymore ANYMORE.