Gandalf vs Dumbledore

[ahill1]

Gandalf from The Lord of the Rings vs Dumbledore from Harry Potter. Who wins?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

If there's no intel (which is very unlikely given Gandalf's telepathy and superior magic), Dumbledore has a chance if he uses Avarda-Kerdava, though that's assuming Gandalf just stands there, otherwise Gandalf oneshots.

 

[ahill1]

Is Gandalf that superior?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Yeah. He's likely Moon Level as Gandalf the Grey due to his fight with the Balrog. Balrogs are comparable in power to Tiliol, the embodiment of the Moon in Tolkien's Universe.

 

[ahill1]

But what about Dumbledore vs Voldemort? The feats presented in that fight were pretty absurd iirc.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Nothing close to Moon level though. Dumbledore's magic is Large Building level at best and his speed isn't much different from a regular human, whereas Gandalf's physically able to react to the Balrog.

 

[Doctor Havoc]

Nothing close to Moon level though. Dumbledore's magic is Large Building level at best and his speed isn't much different from a regular human, whereas Gandalf's physically able to react to the Balrog.

HP magic isn't quite known for its destruction powers bar a few spells. Dumbledore probably wouldn't use the unforgivable curses unless its younger version of himself, and if he did I would find it hard to believe Gandalf dodging a barrage of Avada Kedavra and Imperio curses regardless of speed.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

HP magic isn't quite known for its destruction powers bar a few spells. Dumbledore probably wouldn't use the killing curses unless its younger version of himself, and if he did I would find it hard to believe Gandalf dodging a barrage of Avada Kedavra and Imperio curses regardless of speed.

Gandalf has been shown to use telepathy to probe one's mind, so he'd probably have intel on those by probing Dumbledore's mind. Considering the sheer difference in the volume of their magical power, I doubt Dumbledore would have the capability to fight off his telepathy.

 

[Doctor Havoc]

HP magic isn't quite known for its destruction powers bar a few spells. Dumbledore probably wouldn't use the killing curses unless its younger version of himself, and if he did I would find it hard to believe Gandalf dodging a barrage of Avada Kedavra and Imperio curses regardless of speed.

Gandalf has been shown to use telepathy to probe one's mind, so he'd probably have intel on those by probing Dumbledore's mind. Considering the sheer difference in the volume of their magical power, I doubt Dumbledore would have the capability to fight off his telepathy.

umm Dumbledore is very well versed in Occlumency and Legilimency maybe not quite as good as Snape and Voldemort(debatable)
But his mind is very hard to penetrate. I seriously doubt that Gandalf can penetrate his mind when people much weaker then Dumbledore can effectively protect their own minds (Barty Crouch. Jr).

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I seriously doubt that Gandalf can penetrate his mind when people much weaker then Dumbledore can effectively protect their own minds (Barty Crouch. Jr).

The gap in magical power between they and Dumbledore is still far lower than that between Dumbledore and Gandalf, especially if we take into account the strength of Gandalf's own mental defence as being comparable to his offence (He was able to drive off Sauron in a mental battle when becoming Gandalf the White). Furthermore, unless he got overconfident, he could likely block any of Dumbledore's offensive spells using the Shield of Istari.

 

[Doctor Havoc]

I seriously doubt that Gandalf can penetrate his mind when people much weaker then Dumbledore can effectively protect their own minds (Barty Crouch. Jr).

The gap in magical power between they and Dumbledore is still far lower than that between Dumbledore and Gandalf, especially if we take into account the strength of Gandalf's own mental defence as being comparable to his offence (He was able to drive off Sauron in a mental battle when becoming Gandalf the White). Furthermore, unless he got overconfident, he could likely block any of Dumbledore's offensive spells using the Shield of Istari.

It depends on which universe you go by, I'm sure if Dumbledore was in the LOTR universe his mind might be penetrated but in HP, it seems almost impossible to penetrate a trained mind but the easiest thing to do to an untrained mind. As for his Istari spell block, Gandalf doesn't use it that often and even if he uses its a bit of reach to say, Gandalf can block any and every attack. All it takes is one spell to hit for Dumbledore to win. Add to the fact that Albus can make himself invisible with our without the invisible cloak via disillusionment charm to a high degree. Gandalf would have to tread very carefully in this fight.

 

[Flame]

The wizard wins.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The old meng with the long white beard wins.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

spite thread.Dumbledore can do potara fusion with Harry and Voldemort and still lose

 

[Void]

Gandalf the Grey loses. Gandalf the White wins.

 

[Darker]

Both Gandalfs have more strength, more endurance and far more speed than Dumbledore at his best. His fight with the Balrog proved this.