Gemini Saga Respect Thread

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Since it's been so long since this section had a respect thread, I thought I might as well make one in SG's absence. I plan on doing a Respect Thread and Versus analysis on the Saint Seiya series in general, though this thread will serve as a decent draft in respecting the character that truly brought the series' scale of power into cosmic levels - Gemini Saga.

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Introduction

Gemini Saga is a Gold Saint who served Athena and represented the constellation of Gemini in the Zodiac. Much like the dual nature of the constellation, however, Saga had split personalities; one of absolute good loved by all and considered a god incarnate, the other of selfish evil considered by many to be a Demon. When passed over as candidate for the next Pope of Sanctuary in favour of Sagittarius Aiolos due to the Pope Shion noticing his hidden evil, the evil side gained enough influence to manifest, killing Shion. Saga then impersonated him and would continue to do so for 13 years, his failed attempt to murder the infant Athena being pinned on Aiolos, thus bringing us to the events of the main series.

Part 1 - Power and Techniques

First, I'll talk about the techniques Saga is able to use through his Cosmo.

Like all Saints, Saga's attacks are based on breaking down and manipulating an opponent's atomic structure. This allows him to bypass durability to some extent for those without much of a defence against atomic manipulation.
As a Gold Saint, Saga has the basic requirements of one who uses the Seventh Sense, an instinctual understanding of the atomic nature of the universe akin to enlightenment. This allows one to move at least as fast as the speed of light as stated many times throughout the series. Also stated many times throughout the series is the Gold Saints being able to fight a peer of equal level of Cosmo for 1,000 days without rest. Based on events from The Lost Canvas, Seventh Sense users also have some resistance to time manipulation if their Cosmo rivals the user.

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As for Saga's abilities in specific, his are some of the most powerful amongst the Gold Saints, and that's saying a lot.

Genro Maoken - This technique is a beam of light struck from his fingertip that alters the mind of those used against it for a variety of purposes.

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The most common use of it is to force them to kill a target unwillingly and won't be released from it until one dies in front of them.

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Alternatively, it can be used to mind control a person into believing a particular ideal. This was used against Capricorn Shura to convince him that the Pope (Saga) was true justice and serving the will of Athena.

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This can only be effectively countered if the victim has already taken a mind control attack beforehand to build a slight immunity to such techniques, though doing so is still very difficult.

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Another Dimension (renamed "Dimension of Exile" in the Viz translation) allows Saga to transport his opponent to another dimension outside of space-time for them to wander in forever, unless they either have a defence against spatial manipulation or Saga decides to simply teleport them somewhere else.

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Galaxian Explosion is Saga's strongest technique and what truly brought the Saint Seiya series to a new level. Even a casual usage of it holds enough power to destroy the entirety of the Milky Way Galaxy.

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Saga has been shown to be able to spam this technique fairly well, having used it three times in his battle against Seiya and Ikki, whilst his brother Kanon used it quite casually during the Poseidon and Hades Arcs. Based on that, Saga's power in general should be Galaxy level.
This is supported in Episode G, in which Shura referred to it as a galaxy being destroyed, and this Galaxian Explosion was being held back so that Saga wouldn't kill Shura.

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A full power Galaxian Explosion is of far greater power, being compared to multiple galaxies being disintegrated in an Episode G guide.

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This is also supported by Saga stating in Episode G that Aiolia's Photon Burst rivals his Galaxian Explosion and both are capable of destroying galaxies (plural).

Now, onto his actual power and feats.
Saga was the strongest of the Gold Saints part of his generation (apart from possibly Aiolos), as confirmed by Ikki in the sequel to the original manga, Next Dimension, when fighting Saga's predecessor of 200 years ago Gemini Cain.

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The original manga also supports this with his feat of speedblitzing Aiolia and easily matching the strength of his Light Speed blows whilst not even wearing his Gemini Gold Cloth.

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In the prequel, Episode G, this is expanded on even further with him blocking Capricorn Shura's Excalibur with one hand.

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Granted, Shura was weakening due to the strain resisting Saga's previous use of Genro Maoken had caused, but this is still a very note worthy feat when Shura hadn't lost enough power to become aware of his own fatigue and even referred to himself as the strongest Gold Saint in the original manga (note that his memory of fighting Saga was erased by Saga using the Genro Maoken on him a second time).

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The anime also expands on this further, with him not lacking confidence in potentially taking on Aires Mu, Taurus Aldebaran, Leo Aiolia and Scorpio Milo at once and reaffirming his own strength as absolute several times.

That concludes part 1. Will post part 2 soon.
 

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Part 1.5 - Durability and stamina

Forgot to talk about his durability in the previous post, so I'll just make a minor mention of it here.

This is easily Saga's most impressive stat (outside of his broken techniques) as presented when he quickly recovered a few seconds later from Seiya's Pegasus Suiseiken whilst Seiya had created a plot convenience miracle whilst in the Seventh Sense and completely overpowered the Galaxian Explosion.

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Whilst some of this can be attributed to his Gold Cloth, it won't be the primary factor when Gold Saints such as Deathmask and Aphrodite were killed by techniques far weaker than the Galaxian Explosion.
As for his durability without it, this can be scaled from his brother Kanon, who was consistently said several times to be as strong as Saga. We could use Saga being able to penetrate himself through the Gemini Gold Cloth, but that feat seems inconsistent when his fist should be nowhere near as strong as a Galaxian Explosion.

Anyway, as far as a clothless Saga scaling from Kanon, we have Kanon being able to take the signature technique of the Underworld Judge Wyvern Rhadamanthys, though the attack did still severely injure him without the Gold Cloth.

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Without the Gold Cloth, Kanon wasn't capable of taking a full power Galaxian Explosion at point blank range, though it did still kill Rhadamanthys.

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As for how strong Rhadamanthys is compared to the Gold Saints in general or Saga/Kanon's base attacks, he should be on a similar level to his fellow Judge Griffon Minos, who accomplished a feat easily that even several Gold Saints can't.

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In other words, the power of the Three Judges are far above the average Gold Saint, yet weaker than the Galaxian Explosion.

His stamina is also great as shown in his battle in the 12 palaces during the Hades Arc. Not only had he already lost four of his senses from taking Virgo Shaka's Tenbu Horin...

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But was still capable of blocking Aiolia's Lightning Plasma and taking 14 of Scorpio Milo's Scarlet Needles, as well as almost kill Milo with Galaxian Explosion afterwards despite not fighting to kill him.

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So, Saga's overall stats with the Seventh Sense are...

Destructive Capability: Galaxy. Multi-Galaxy with Galaxian Explosion.
Speed: FTL
Durability: Galaxy+ to Multi-Galaxy. Multi-Galaxy+ with Gemini Gold Cloth.
Stamina: Nigh-limitless (can fight for 1,000 days against an equal opponent).

Part 2 - Eighth Sense

The Eighth Sense is the ability to transcend between life and death, having full control of yourself when traversing the Underworld and therefore counting as soul manipulation and the ability to strike an opponent's soul with your attacks. Saga gains this ability when revived by Athena's Cosmo in the later portion of the Hades Arc.

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However, the Eighth Sense also provides a great boost in power, as shown with Kanon's feats after attaining it. He became able to fight off Rhadamanthys fairly well, taking his Greatest Caution and even outspeeding him.

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He was even able to tank the Greatest Caution in their rematch and whilst this may be due to the common ability of the same attack not working twice on a Saint, that's shown to be ineffective if the gap is too great, such as with Ikki having been damaged by the Galaxian Explosion multiple times.

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Despite this, it's worth noting Rhadamanthys was injured by Lyra Orphe prior during the rematch and Kanon was overpowered by the other of the three Judges, Garuda Aiacos before being further injured by Minos.

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Considering Kanon was later able to fight Rhadamanthys against and seemingly recover from his broken finger, that's a fair point to the Gemini twins' stamina and durability.

So, the stats for Eighth Sense Gemini Saga/Kanon would be...

Destructive Capability: Galaxy+ to Multi-Galaxy. Multi-Galaxy with Galaxian Explosion.
Speed: FTL+
Durability: Multi-Galaxy. Multi-Galaxy+ with Gemini Gold Cloth

Part 3 will cover God Cloth Saga from Soul of Gold.
 
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