Gohan (SDS) vs SSJ Vegetto (BoG)

[Southern Gothic]

Gohan from the Shadow Dragon Arc vs SSJ Vegetto from BoG. Who wins?

 

[kriss-]

Vegetto from BoG is the same as from Db Super. Goku's Base is still lower than Frieza so he didn't increase much, if at all.

That said, I'm actually not really sure. I know Gohan kept training and the Ssj multiplier is 2.5x Base, but that still shouldn't put Gohan on Vegetto's league.

 

[Six Trails]

Going by feats and statements:

Super Vegetto > Vegeta-Baby > SS3 Goku > Base Goku >~ Rild >~ Base Gohan

Gohan at Super Saiyan 2 would end up weaker than Super Saiyan 2 Goku who's quite a bit below Super Vegetto. Unless Gohan got some massive un-noted hax in between the S17 arc and ED arc, he loses.

 

[Southern Gothic]

Vegetto from BoG is the same as from Db Super. Goku's Base is still lower than Frieza so he didn't increase much, if at all.

Well, that debate is going on in another thread, as I am sure you know. True or not, I still need to specify for those who feel differently. Good answer though.

@Mike, if you factor in him keeping the Baby power up, or if you consider that Baby surpassed SSJ3 Vegetto only, there is some wiggle room in there. I do lean towards Gohan.

 

[kriss-]

Baby Golden Oozaru ~ 500,000
Goku Ssj4 (Baby) ~ 450,000
Vegetto Ssj3 (Buu) ~ 400,000

Super Baby Vegeta 2 ~ 250,000
Majuub ~ 200,000

Super Baby Vegeta 1 ~ 125,000

Vegetto Ssj2 (Buu) ~ 100,000

Vegetto Ssj (Buu) ~ 50,000
Goku Ssj3 (M2) ~ 45,000

Goku Ssj2 (M2) ~ 11,250

Goku Ssj (M2) ~ 7,500

Metal Rildo ~ 5,000
Hyper Rildo ~ 3,800

Goku Base (M2) ~ 3,000

General Rildo ~ 2,400
Gohan Ssj (GT) ~ 2,000

Boohan ~ 1,200

Vegetto Base (Buu) ~ 1,000
Gohan Base (GT) ~ 800
Ultimate Gohan ~ 700
Gotenks Ssj3 ~ 600
Super Buu ~ 500

IMO

Goku Ssj4 ~ 450,000
Vegetto Ssj3 ~ 400,000
Ssj2 ~ 100,000
~Ssj ~ 50,000

 

[Ryuzaki]

Gohan got badly beaten by Base Goku (even though he was SSJ and boosted by Baby), and Rildo, who were both only stated to be stronger than Boohan at best.

SSJ Vegetto wins easily.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Vegito FTW!

 

[Disasters GoOn]

I personally have SSj Vegetto (BoG)~SSj3 Vegetto (Boo Arc).

SSj(2) Gohan (Shadow Dragons Arc) was considered to be a fusion candidate by Majuub, who is above Boo Arc SSj Vegetto. So, Gohan would be equal to Majuub IMO.

That being said, BoG Vegetto ragestomps.

 

[Pyro]

Oob considered everyone a candidate. He just wanted to fuse. I don't think it was meant to be taken as a strength implication.

That said, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt and allow them to keep the influence from Baby, so Gohan would end up still taking Vegetto's dick in his mouth, but to a slightly lesser extent than if he was pre-Baby.

 

[Zoom]

In the SD arc, didn't Gohan already fought General Metal Rildo? Even though Rildo was winning and wasn't blowing Gohan out of the water, I say Gohan wins by scaling and feats.

 

[kriss-]

Metal Rildo & Goku Base & Ssj (Planet M2), both fit into the gap between Buuhan & Super Vegetto.

Vegetto is many times more powerful than Goku.

 

[Ryuzaki]

In the SD arc, didn't Gohan already fought General Metal Rildo? Even though Rildo was winning and wasn't blowing Gohan out of the water, I say Gohan wins by scaling and feats.

Except that Rildo is only stated to be stronger than Boo. Let's say Boohan at best. Even then, Vegetto was wiping the floor with Boohan, who stated that he wouldn't hold back, so he's also stronger than Boo.

Base Rildo ~ Base Vegetto (Anime) > Base Gohan. From there, Vegetto stomps.

 

[kriss-]

The Ssj multiplier in GT is only 2.5x, whereas Z doesn't give any inclination that it's lower than 50.

 

[Ryuzaki]

The Ssj multiplier in GT is only 2.5x, whereas Z doesn't give any inclination that it's lower than 50.

I disagree. Knowing that Z is part of Anime, why it would only apply to GT ? Especially when you know that Base Saiyans are stupidly haxxed (Gohan VS Dabura, Vegetto VS Boohan, etc.), but aren't overall any stronger than their manga counterpart (SSJ Gohan still struggle against Dabura instead of one-shotting him for example), which obviously means that their SSJ multiplier is weaker.

Not to mention that SSJ Goku powered-up since this statement, as Rildo was flustered by Goku's power.

And there isn't any proof that Toei have a precise multiplier, nor that they care about it. If even AT don't, why would they ?

 

[kriss-]

The gap between Frieza & Nail is larger than the gap between Buuhan. So Vegetto is probably 10x stronger than Buuhan.

I won't discuss the Anime. It holds no precedence over anything. Therefore the Gohan vs Dabura argument is mut.

 

[Ryuzaki]

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The gap between Frieza & Nail is larger than the gap between Buuhan. So Vegetto is probably 10x stronger than Buuhan.

Assumption. And even if that was the case, how does it change the fact that Base Goku and Base Rildo are stronger than Boohan just like Vegetto ?

I won't discuss the Anime.

Just in case you've forgot, GT is the Anime Sequel. Ignoring it just because it doesn't fit your reasoning won't get you anywhere.

 

[SuperGogeta]

SSJ2 Gohan = Majuub <<< Base Vegetto (DBS/BoG)
this would be a total stomp, not SSJ Needed for Vegetto

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I don't think there's much to imply Gohan gained much power since his battle with Super #17. The only thing there is to suggest such is survival feats against Yi Xing Long, and by that logic, Base Trunks would be >> SS4 Vegeta. Considering the gap between the Boo Arc and BoG versions of Goku, even Base Vegetto should be enough to oneshot.