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So, a thread revolving around ranks and numbers. Let's play with the numbers a little, assigning them to each fighter as we see fit.
Goku and Cell have a more or less even fight. When Cell decides to show he's too fast even without Shunkan Idou, he crosses around Goku a few times, who's doing everything he possibly can to keep up. Cell described their powers as "close to a certain extent". 1.1x gap seems fitting enough here. That's the kinda advantage we see imo.
Goku 100
Cell 110
Then Gohan comes to play. Gohan admits he wasn't impressed by Goku and Cell and thinks Goku is holding back. Well, while this already shifts our focus to how incredible Gohan may be, he thinking Goku is holding back likely stems from his preconception that his father must be way stronger.
But then Gohan powers up. Cell admits in not so clear terms that Goku has been surpassed. Cell attacks the boy with seemingly the same effort he used against Goku and Gohan avoids those no problem. Gohan leisurely deals with Cell's attacks aimed at him. Cell then see forced to use more speed, but Gohan still comes from his attack unscratched. So assigning Gohan a 12% advantage over the level Cell used against Goku seems fine. More seems unwarranted, as the goal quickly shifts to enraged Gohan. That's what will get the job done. I may assign a power increase to Cell even though he only mentions speed out of convenience. I think it's possible that Gohan holds a slight advantage over Cell as Cell uses his chi blasts as a decoy to get Gohan in a crushing hug. And when Gohan gets swatted away by Cell later on when trying to save his friends, it's possible he was weakened by Cell's earlier assault.
Goku 100
Cell (vs Goku) 110
Cell (real speed) 120
Gohan 125
Then comes my preferences. Cell's power up to FP seems very alike Vegeta's transformation to grade 2. There's a similarity in their aura, in their physics... I think Cell is drawing from the same source Vegeta was when resorting to grade 2. It'd be then nice to keep the boost constant.
As for the grade 2's boost, it really seems the same type of power up, more or less, Freeza achieved when bulking up and going 100%. He was still thin at 70%, but his body started to adapt once he began powering up to 100%. So a 70/100 power up for grade 2 would find backing in the same increase a character achieved when going through a similar process. And it also so happens to sit right in the middle between the 2x multiplier. So, having Cell undergoing a 70/100 power up...
Goku 100
Cell 110
Cell 120
Gohan 125
Cell (full power) 172
That's where Cell would sit, approximately.
Now, there's the SSJ2-type power up he gets when getting that Zenkai. It'd be nice to have it coinciding with the SSJ2's boost, as well. If we pick the one given in the SEG, that would double his "SSJ-like" power (It's worth noting that he seems to be using a SSJ-like power like Goku and Gohan when fighting both, which also finds backing in the aura and bodily structure, only resorting to the grade 2-esque when going FP, so this SSJ-like power is the one that gets multiplied), meaning he'd get up to 240. If we double Gohan's as well, as a result, he'd be getting up to 250, which is the same exact advantage he had before Cell went full power. If we want to accommodate some possible rage boost, we could push Gohan up to 270... But more than that and his advantage over SPC would be too pronounceable.
Goku 100
Cell 110
Cell 120
Gohan 125
Cell (full power) 172
Super Perfect 240
Gohan SSJ2 270
Well, that was more a list experimenting backing on other power ups, with similar auras and nature, and seeing how it'd end up. It doesn't necessarily reflect how I'd like the gaps to be.
Goku and Cell have a more or less even fight. When Cell decides to show he's too fast even without Shunkan Idou, he crosses around Goku a few times, who's doing everything he possibly can to keep up. Cell described their powers as "close to a certain extent". 1.1x gap seems fitting enough here. That's the kinda advantage we see imo.
Goku 100
Cell 110
Then Gohan comes to play. Gohan admits he wasn't impressed by Goku and Cell and thinks Goku is holding back. Well, while this already shifts our focus to how incredible Gohan may be, he thinking Goku is holding back likely stems from his preconception that his father must be way stronger.
But then Gohan powers up. Cell admits in not so clear terms that Goku has been surpassed. Cell attacks the boy with seemingly the same effort he used against Goku and Gohan avoids those no problem. Gohan leisurely deals with Cell's attacks aimed at him. Cell then see forced to use more speed, but Gohan still comes from his attack unscratched. So assigning Gohan a 12% advantage over the level Cell used against Goku seems fine. More seems unwarranted, as the goal quickly shifts to enraged Gohan. That's what will get the job done. I may assign a power increase to Cell even though he only mentions speed out of convenience. I think it's possible that Gohan holds a slight advantage over Cell as Cell uses his chi blasts as a decoy to get Gohan in a crushing hug. And when Gohan gets swatted away by Cell later on when trying to save his friends, it's possible he was weakened by Cell's earlier assault.
Goku 100
Cell (vs Goku) 110
Cell (real speed) 120
Gohan 125
Then comes my preferences. Cell's power up to FP seems very alike Vegeta's transformation to grade 2. There's a similarity in their aura, in their physics... I think Cell is drawing from the same source Vegeta was when resorting to grade 2. It'd be then nice to keep the boost constant.
As for the grade 2's boost, it really seems the same type of power up, more or less, Freeza achieved when bulking up and going 100%. He was still thin at 70%, but his body started to adapt once he began powering up to 100%. So a 70/100 power up for grade 2 would find backing in the same increase a character achieved when going through a similar process. And it also so happens to sit right in the middle between the 2x multiplier. So, having Cell undergoing a 70/100 power up...
Goku 100
Cell 110
Cell 120
Gohan 125
Cell (full power) 172
That's where Cell would sit, approximately.
Now, there's the SSJ2-type power up he gets when getting that Zenkai. It'd be nice to have it coinciding with the SSJ2's boost, as well. If we pick the one given in the SEG, that would double his "SSJ-like" power (It's worth noting that he seems to be using a SSJ-like power like Goku and Gohan when fighting both, which also finds backing in the aura and bodily structure, only resorting to the grade 2-esque when going FP, so this SSJ-like power is the one that gets multiplied), meaning he'd get up to 240. If we double Gohan's as well, as a result, he'd be getting up to 250, which is the same exact advantage he had before Cell went full power. If we want to accommodate some possible rage boost, we could push Gohan up to 270... But more than that and his advantage over SPC would be too pronounceable.
Goku 100
Cell 110
Cell 120
Gohan 125
Cell (full power) 172
Super Perfect 240
Gohan SSJ2 270
Well, that was more a list experimenting backing on other power ups, with similar auras and nature, and seeing how it'd end up. It doesn't necessarily reflect how I'd like the gaps to be.
