Gohkan Mecha Saga Powerlevels

[Ultimate Cell]

Heres are my Powerlevel to the Mecha Saga(Im on mobile so excuse me) Here we go. Trunks(Suppressed)5,(Base Full Power)3,300,000.(SSJ)165,000,000. Goku(Base)4,010,000.(SSJ)200,500,000. King Cold 105,000,000. Mecha Freiza(Suppressed 70%)117,000,000. (Max 100%). 160,000,000. Vegeta(Base)2,800,000. Gohan(Base) 1,750,000. Piccolo 2,100,000. Tien 170,000. Yamcha 125,000. Chiaotzu 75,000 Krillin.310,000. Freiza Soldiers. 900-1150 I think that it. Let me know if I miss somethin and if theirs any questions.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

The gap between SSjin Trunks and Mecha Freeza is small and the manga suggest that they weren't rival in power.

 

[Ultimate Cell]

The gap between SSjin Trunks and Mecha Freeza is small and the manga suggest that they weren't rival in power.

Freiza wasnt using his full power on trunks though. He didnt power up like he did on namek and he didnt have the big muscles when hes at 100%

 

[SSJ2]

Trunks told him to come at him with everything he had, implying he could still dispose of Cold and Freeza together with one attack.

 

[freezamite]

The gap between SSjin Trunks and Mecha Freeza is small and the manga suggest that they weren't rival in power.

Freiza wasnt using his full power on trunks though. He didnt power up like he did on namek and he didnt have the big muscles when hes at 100%

Freezer was scared of Trunks once he saw his SSJ form, he had no reason to not fight at his maximum power. It's true that Mecha Freezer didn't increase his powers, which means that he was already at his maximum when he attacked Trunks.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

The gap between SSjin Trunks and Mecha Freeza is small and the manga suggest that they weren't rival in power.

Freiza wasnt using his full power on trunks though. He didnt power up like he did on namek and he didnt have the big muscles when hes at 100%

That was just a dramatic power up like how Goku turn into SSjin3 against Bootenks instantly.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

Yeah, there's no reason why Mecha Frieza wouldn't use full power. I see a lot of people try to downplay Trunks and I don't get why.

 

[freezamite]

The gap between SSjin Trunks and Mecha Freeza is small and the manga suggest that they weren't rival in power.

Freiza wasnt using his full power on trunks though. He didnt power up like he did on namek and he didnt have the big muscles when hes at 100%

That was just a dramatic power up like how Goku turn into SSjin3 against Bootenks instantly.

Mecha Freezer didn't power up. It's not a matter of his muscles or anything like that, it's just that absolutely nobody stated him powering up, which means that he didn't do so.

Yeah, there's no reason why Mecha Frieza wouldn't use full power. I see a lot of people try to downplay Trunks and I don't get why.

It's probably because of how Goku stoped Trunk's attacks with a finger. Most people takes that as "Goku was much stronger than Trunks" even when it was clearly stated that Trunks didn't attack Goku with all his strength.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Freiza wasnt using his full power on trunks though. He didnt power up like he did on namek and he didnt have the big muscles when hes at 100%

That was just a dramatic power up like how Goku turn into SSjin3 against Bootenks instantly.

Mecha Freezer didn't power up. It's not a matter of his muscles or anything like that, it's just that absolutely nobody stated him powering up, which means that he didn't do so.

Yeah, there's no reason why Mecha Frieza wouldn't use full power. I see a lot of people try to downplay Trunks and I don't get why.

It's probably because of how Goku stoped Trunk's attacks with a finger. Most people takes that as "Goku was much stronger than Trunks" even when it was clearly stated that Trunks didn't attack Goku with all his strength.

The whole point of that fight was to established that Trunks is much stronger than Freeza and still helpless against the Androids.

 

[freezamite]

The whole point of that fight was to established that Trunks is much stronger than Freeza and still helpless against the Androids.

That's your interpretation of the fight, a wrong interpretation in my opinion. If Toriyama just wanted to do what you said, then it would have been very easy to do: you make mecha freezer stronger than he was on Namek without any kind of doubt, and then you make a new character clearly stronger than anything shown before (or use one of your already existing characters powering him up) defeat him and explain the androids were much, much worse.

Toriyama did that in Namek. To demonstrate how dangerous Namek was the first thing he does is to create Kiwi, a fighter as strong as Vegeta was when he visited earth, and Vegeta kills him with no difficulty while stating that Freezer is much stronger than that. An easy way to show progression.

And with the mecha Freezer fight one could say Toriyama ALMOST followed that scheme, it's just that this time he went much further and there are some key differences:
1. Unlike the Kiwi example, where it was made pretty clear that Kiwi was as strong as Vegeta when he went to earth, this time Gohan says Mecha Freezer's power is much lower than it was on Namek (he assumes Freezer isn't using all his power, but he clearly is as demonstrated by the fact that he didn't power up to fight against Trunks).

2. Unlike the Kiwi example, where it was made pretty clear that Vegeta had become much stronger, this time Trunks's power is said to be "the same" Goku had on Namek, and that's further confirmed when Goku (that in his own words didn't have much time to train and the few time he had was invested in learning the instant transmission) shows he is at Trunk's level at least.

If that wasn't enough to tell the reader the real extent of mecha Freezer's power, Toriyama also presented Cold in his transformed form. Not only Cold admits his inferiority to his son (confirming that Freezer was stronger) which gives us a really close ballpark of his power, but he appears transformed in a form we know (from Freezer) and that we can also approximate (it shouldn't be stronger than Freezer's if Freezer was stronger than Cold, that's basic logic) serving as a reference to know Mecha's real power.