Goku (no tail) VS Yamcha

[Keedounan]

Both from first arc. Who would win?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The loss of power from losing a a tail seems to be a significant one, considering the scaling involved in the Vegeta fight. Even when taking into account the drain that the Kamehameha and Power Ball caused him, it's a bit of a stretch to say that was the level Vegeta stayed at when fighting Gohan given that placing the latter leagues above his 2.8k level when seemingly not as angry as well as a fatigued Goku still performing with better stamina than his drained self at the Cell Games is quite a stretch.

All that said, I'd probably place Goku and Yamcha at a comparable level at this point. Given Goku initially had some balancing issues, I'd give it to Yamcha with high to extreme-diff. Goku seemed to improve his balance in the days following and it could be assumed the power/Ki lost from losing a tail is only due to temporary shock to the body, but both factors would be after the cutoff point of the first arc.

 

[Keedounan]

The loss of power from losing a a tail seems to be a significant one, considering the scaling involved in the Vegeta fight. Even when taking into account the drain that the Kamehameha and Power Ball caused him, it's a bit of a stretch to say that was the level Vegeta stayed at when fighting Gohan given that placing the latter leagues above his 2.8k level when seemingly not as angry as well as a fatigued Goku still performing with better stamina than his drained self at the Cell Games is quite a stretch.

All that said, I'd probably place Goku and Yamcha at a comparable level at this point. Given Goku initially had some balancing issues, I'd give it to Yamcha with high to extreme-diff. Goku seemed to improve his balance in the days following and it could be assumed the power/Ki lost from losing a tail is only due to temporary shock to the body, but both factors would be after the cutoff point of the first arc.

Those are good points, though I doubt the power loss was temporary. In the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai, Goku pointed out he was in better shape with his tail shortly after breaking out of Giran's Gum technique (something he couldn't do earlier).

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The context of him breaking the wall seemed more to do with how the tail offered extra balance, considering the way he utilised it before the kick. In other words, the tail helped him utilise what strength he had better rather than increase it. The point of him escaping from the Guruguru Gum is fair, though Goku himself never seems to suggest that to be the case with his statements and it's worth noting that until his tail grew back, Giran never gave him an opening with which to try and break through the gum.

 

[ahill1]

It's also worth noting that in the Kuririn vs Kame-Sen'nin fight, Goku stated that if he were able to see it (Jackie's movements), Kuririn should be able too. Isn't that implying Kuririn shouldn't be too far from Goku without tail? I think this is also backed up by Goku not moving that huge rock too far compared to Kuririn. I think regaining the tail considerably widened the otherwise relatively small gap between both.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I wouldn't say those feats necessarily contradict the gap presented between Kuririn and Goku, the physcal one in specific. Not only is such a thing difficult to quantify when Kuririn and Roshi aren't exactly in completely different tiers of raw strength (Kuririn's feat of moving the rock even shocking the latter) but Kuririn was later able to make someone bleed who Goku overpowering shortly afterwards acted as a solid indicator of his strength having improved.
Goku's comment about Kuririn's reactions are a better point, but I'd say there are several factors to take into account. For one, Saiyan physiology makes them far more capable physically than humans and it's not as though Toriyama hasn't used the contextualisation of Saiyans in Part 1 to explain prior events (eg. Zenkais), so it could be assumed Goku simply has better reactions than Kuririn on equal grounds without Ki control. Alongside that, Goku had yet to fully become a master of martial arts at this point, so it would be fair to believe his estimations on what Kuririn was capable of weren't 100% accurate as he didn't really have much to go off on his friend's full capabilities when their training didn't really have much reaction focus beyond perhaps dexterity.

 

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Goku (tail)- 10
Yamcha- 9
Goku (tailless)- 8

 

[DBZAOTA482]

I'd say Yamcha after a close match.