Goku SSJ4 (fight against Baby) vs Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo saga)

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I give the edge to Goku, but it is a good fight IMO. Goku is simply faster, more powerful, and has a lot less stamina drain to deal with.
 

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Well, SBV1 was already stronger than Vegetto SSJ, and Oozaru Baby wasn't considerbly stronger than SSJ4 Goku. Applying the 10x boost for Oozaru, shouldn't Goku SSJ4 be far stronger than Vegetto SSJ?
 

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ahill1 said:
Well, SBV1 was already stronger than Vegetto SSJ, and Oozaru Baby wasn't considerbly stronger than SSJ4 Goku. Applying the 10x boost for Oozaru, shouldn't Goku SSJ4 be far stronger than Vegetto SSJ?
SS4 Goku >>>> Golden Oozaru Goku. Vegeta-Baby could at least put up some defence against the latter, didn't find things to be hopeless and dodge his flame breath, whereas he was nothing compared to SS4 Goku.

That, and depending what you believe Golden Oozaru is 10x stronger than, having SS3 Vegetto so high can still work, since his SSJ multiplier is far higher than GT characters. If you were to peg Golden Oozaru as 10x SSJ, SS3 Vegetto could easily rival SS4 Galu.

On topic, I'd place SS3 Vegetto as slightly stronger via scaling, though Goku ultimately wins by enduring long enough for SS3's stamina to deplete.
 

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Goku wins. He's too powerful for a balanced fight, and even if it was balanced, Vegetto would either run out of energy or he would defuse too soon due to his SSJ3.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
ahill1 said:
Well, SBV1 was already stronger than Vegetto SSJ, and Oozaru Baby wasn't considerbly stronger than SSJ4 Goku. Applying the 10x boost for Oozaru, shouldn't Goku SSJ4 be far stronger than Vegetto SSJ?
SS4 Goku >>>> Golden Oozaru Goku. Vegeta-Baby could at least put up some defence against the latter, didn't find things to be hopeless and dodge his flame breath, whereas he was nothing compared to SS4 Goku.

That, and depending what you believe Golden Oozaru is 10x stronger than, having SS3 Vegetto so high can still work, since his SSJ multiplier is far higher than GT characters. If you were to peg Golden Oozaru as 10x SSJ, SS3 Vegetto could easily rival SS4 Galu.

On topic, I'd place SS3 Vegetto as slightly stronger via scaling, though Goku ultimately wins by enduring long enough for SS3's stamina to deplete.
I am talking about Oozaru Baby, though. Baby-Vegeta, post his 1st power up, was already stronger than SSJ Vegetto, and if we apply the 10x Oozaru boost, Oozaru Baby would end up way stronger than a hypothetical SSJ3 Vegetto. Consequently, so would Goku considering his SSJ4 still rivaled Oozaru Baby.

Vegetto SSJ : 10
~SSJ2 : 20
~SSJ3 : 80

SBV1 : 12 (strongest chi Goku has ever felt)
SBV2 : 16
Oozaru Baby : 160

Goku SSJ4 : 150

Is there something preventing applying the 10x Oozaru boost for Baby?
 

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I change my answer to Goku stomping after thinking about it. Unless Baby got a really small Oozaru boost, which would defy the purpose of forcing that massive amount of Bruits waves on him, then 10x seems the bare minimum, and he was only slightly stronger than SSJ4 Goku.
 

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ahill1 said:
Well, SBV1 was already stronger than Vegetto SSJ, and Oozaru Baby wasn't considerbly stronger than SSJ4 Goku. Applying the 10x boost for Oozaru, shouldn't Goku SSJ4 be far stronger than Vegetto SSJ?

Why would it be 10x? It's Gold Oozaru.
 

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SuperSaiyan2 said:
ahill1 said:
Well, SBV1 was already stronger than Vegetto SSJ, and Oozaru Baby wasn't considerbly stronger than SSJ4 Goku. Applying the 10x boost for Oozaru, shouldn't Goku SSJ4 be far stronger than Vegetto SSJ?

Why would it be 10x? It's Gold Oozaru.
Dunno. Does it make the multiplier any different?
 

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ahill1 said:
SuperSaiyan2 said:
ahill1 said:
Well, SBV1 was already stronger than Vegetto SSJ, and Oozaru Baby wasn't considerbly stronger than SSJ4 Goku. Applying the 10x boost for Oozaru, shouldn't Goku SSJ4 be far stronger than Vegetto SSJ?

Why would it be 10x? It's Gold Oozaru.
Dunno. Does it make the multiplier any different?
Well it's shown SSJ is mixed in with Oozaru too, so it having the exact same boost as standard Oozaru doesn't make sense to me. I go with 25x initially, then much more when turned into SSJ4.
 

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ahill1 said:
I am talking about Oozaru Baby, though. Baby-Vegeta, post his 1st power up, was already stronger than SSJ Vegetto, and if we apply the 10x Oozaru boost, Oozaru Baby would end up way stronger than a hypothetical SSJ3 Vegetto. Consequently, so would Goku considering his SSJ4 still rivaled Oozaru Baby.

Vegetto SSJ : 10
~SSJ2 : 20
~SSJ3 : 80

SBV1 : 12 (strongest chi Goku has ever felt)
SBV2 : 16
Oozaru Baby : 160

Goku SSJ4 : 150

Is there something preventing applying the 10x Oozaru boost for Baby?
Vegeta-Baby's body is a lot different from a normal Saiyan's due to his Tsufurian influence. You could easily attribute that to nerf the multiplier.
 
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