Goku vs Vegeta end of Namek

[Warmmedown]

No kaioken, no SSJ, both fresh, no zenkai from dying (if anyone believes in that)

 

[Keedounan]

Goku would win, and quite easily I might add. Even without accounting for the Kaioken and SSJ, he still put up far more of a fight against Freeza than Vegeta did.

 

[SSJ2]

Vegeta would need a Zenkai to have any chance of competing here. Vegeta was utterly unable to keep up with a very suppressed Freeza's speed, who a suppressed Goku was more than a match for. Goku's full Base power is eons above Vegeta.

 

[Pyro]

Whoa there, buddy. You might want to exhibit more kind feelings toward my man Vegeta here.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Not sure what there is to discuss here. We saw a pretty clear picture of how things would go between Vegeta and a Goku not using his full power from how their fights with Freeza compared, unless you're in the camp that believe in the invisible Kaioken .

 

[Boo Brand Milk]

vs

Vegeta

Spoiler

:Krillin

 

[Warmmedown]

So

 

[Boo Brand Milk]

So

Also killed Cell, got stoned while fighting Dabura, and whomped GT Base Goku. Krillin is a boss.

 

[Warmmedown]

Took me a while to figure out that stoned one. Thought it was because he always says "dude" or "oh maaan" in English.

 

[sei'taer]

unless you're in the camp that believe in the invisible Kaioken

I mean it's pretty obvious that Goku doesn't start out with Kaio-ken, but the fact that Kaio-ken is invisible most of the fight is a thing man.

 

[SSJ2]

The full colour manga clears up any confusion regarding Kaioken. There aren't any scenes where it is invisibly used.

 

[SIAD]

If this is in the Manga, Goku wins very easily.

If this is in Anime, it would be a tie. When you mean Vegeta (Final Arc Namek) you mean when he revived and had a Zenkai Power reviving.

Vegeta was confident of defeating a Frieza that he knew was stronger than when he fought Vegeta and Goku in the beginning. Therefore I have Goku and Vegeta more or less on the same level.