Gotenks SSJ (post RoSaT) vs Goku SSJ3 (Boo saga)
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Gotenks gets bitch slapped 
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SSJ Gotenks (post) >> Base Gotenks (post) >/>> SSJ Gotenks (pre) > SS3 Goku
Galu's only going to do a thing if he's given the power of :toei
Galu's only going to do a thing if he's given the power of :toei
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Gotenks stomps in base.
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SSJ2 said:
M12 Goku?
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Not only is Goku massively disadvantaged by the strain of SSj3, but Gotenks is all around just to powerful at this point for him to compare to. Goku is just going to get bodied, plain and simple.
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You guys are boring.
What's the point of the same thread being made so many times if everyone just says the same thing everytime :V
What's the point of the same thread being made so many times if everyone just says the same thing everytime :V
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Pocket-God said:
Fixed.
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Ah, thanks for the assistance, Withheld.
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Just like Vegeta said he'd be more powerful than Perfect Cell 
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Except Goku wasn't arrogant and prideful...
Also, Gotenks doesn't need SSJ to win.
Also, Gotenks doesn't need SSJ to win.
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withheldforprivacy said:
Fixed/2
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Ah, thanks for the assistance, GS.
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There are two ways to view this.
1. CLASSIC THEORY
SSJ3 Goku<SSJ Gotenks pre<Base Gotenks post<SSJ Gotenks post
2. UNCONVENTIONAL THEORY
To avoid haxing, you can always support Goku was talking about SSJ Gotenks post
ROSAT when he talked about the fused fighter that would surpass him, considering
the kids only perfected the fusion multiplier after ROSAT. In that case, SSJ3 Goku
has a chance.
1. CLASSIC THEORY
SSJ3 Goku<SSJ Gotenks pre<Base Gotenks post<SSJ Gotenks post
2. UNCONVENTIONAL THEORY
To avoid haxing, you can always support Goku was talking about SSJ Gotenks post
ROSAT when he talked about the fused fighter that would surpass him, considering
the kids only perfected the fusion multiplier after ROSAT. In that case, SSJ3 Goku
has a chance.
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Unconventional because it's nonsensical. Goku showed no signs he was factoring in the Rosat when talking to Piccolo, not to mention it took him a while to piece together the kids were inside the Rosat when their Ki disappeared. Avoiding bloated gaps can easily be done whilst maintaining the implied chain if you give Gotenks lower multipliers, which makes far more sense when his feats would imply a fairly low boost from base to SSJ, unless you're seriously suggesting the gap between SS2 and SS3 is more than 50x.withheldforprivacy said:
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Goku factoring the RoSaT is nonsensical, considering that upon Piccolo bringing it up Goku dismissed the idea saying they can only use it once in their whole lives and that they better reserve it to another situation, implying he didn't think RoSaT was needed...
... but still, what withheld stated about "perfected the Gotenks' multiplier post RoSaT" isn't as nonsensical as one would believe... first off, we know that Goten and Trunks in the Room didn't power up nearly as much as Gotenks did, considering upon seeing Goten and Trunks laying out in their base form Piccolo did say nothing and was still hoping for a miracle... yet when he saw base Gotenks formed he was already goshing over this latter's improvement and believing they would have a chance, which kind of shows Gotenks' improvement was way bigger than Trunks and Goten's separetely, as this "big ass" power up was just made obvious when they turned into Gotenks. That would then imply that the boost the kids receive when fusing into Gotenks is simply considerably bigger than they one they did prior to the Room, as now we have a "slight" difference between the boys pre and post Room and yet a pretty big gap between pre and post Gotenks, which would just be possible if Gotenks developed on its own...
Also, like many people would believe here, the adults aren't way stronger than the kids here while in same forms (like, not "many folds stronger") considering Goten could already have his brother on his toes while in their sparring session... and yet Goku was sure that a fusion between himself and Vegeta would be strong enough to deal with Super Boo (to whom the kids post RoSaT were on par with at their best), plus the fact that Goku himself seemed also pretty sure that a fusion between himself and Gohan (which should likely be as strong as Gogeta considering Gohan would have to suppress himself to Goku's level) would work out against Bootenks, which would then imply that a fusion between Goku with somene with the same power as himself would benefit from the same boost as Gotenks did post RoSaT, which would then lend credence to the theory that Goku was basing his estimations on a Gotenks benefiting from the same boost as an "adult" fusion would, hence his estimations matching that of a POST RoSaT Gotenks rather than the pre RoSaT one...
...although yeah, upon sensing SSJ Gotenks' chi, Piccolo didn't mock his ability to take out fat Boo, rather he stated his chi was incredible and just wished to test out his speed, which then seems to compliment Goku's estimations... *shrugs*
... but still, what withheld stated about "perfected the Gotenks' multiplier post RoSaT" isn't as nonsensical as one would believe... first off, we know that Goten and Trunks in the Room didn't power up nearly as much as Gotenks did, considering upon seeing Goten and Trunks laying out in their base form Piccolo did say nothing and was still hoping for a miracle... yet when he saw base Gotenks formed he was already goshing over this latter's improvement and believing they would have a chance, which kind of shows Gotenks' improvement was way bigger than Trunks and Goten's separetely, as this "big ass" power up was just made obvious when they turned into Gotenks. That would then imply that the boost the kids receive when fusing into Gotenks is simply considerably bigger than they one they did prior to the Room, as now we have a "slight" difference between the boys pre and post Room and yet a pretty big gap between pre and post Gotenks, which would just be possible if Gotenks developed on its own...
Also, like many people would believe here, the adults aren't way stronger than the kids here while in same forms (like, not "many folds stronger") considering Goten could already have his brother on his toes while in their sparring session... and yet Goku was sure that a fusion between himself and Vegeta would be strong enough to deal with Super Boo (to whom the kids post RoSaT were on par with at their best), plus the fact that Goku himself seemed also pretty sure that a fusion between himself and Gohan (which should likely be as strong as Gogeta considering Gohan would have to suppress himself to Goku's level) would work out against Bootenks, which would then imply that a fusion between Goku with somene with the same power as himself would benefit from the same boost as Gotenks did post RoSaT, which would then lend credence to the theory that Goku was basing his estimations on a Gotenks benefiting from the same boost as an "adult" fusion would, hence his estimations matching that of a POST RoSaT Gotenks rather than the pre RoSaT one...
...although yeah, upon sensing SSJ Gotenks' chi, Piccolo didn't mock his ability to take out fat Boo, rather he stated his chi was incredible and just wished to test out his speed, which then seems to compliment Goku's estimations... *shrugs*
