Hiei (YYH) vs Tien

[The Great Saiyaman]

Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho vs Tien Shinhan from Dragon Ball.

Scenario 1) End of series Hiei (with sword) vs 23rd WMAT Tien

Scenario 2) End of series Hiei (with sword) vs 22nd WMAT Tien

Scenario 3) End of series Hiei (without sword) vs 22nd WMAT Tien

Scenario 4) End of Dark Tournament Hiei (with sword) vs 22nd WMAT Tien
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Honestly, I don't even think it's a fair fight. The power levels are just so much more out of control in DBZ. But, whatever.

Who is the strongest triclops?!

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Hiei zero diffs Tenshinhan in all scenarios.

 

[Flame]

Hiei should quite honestly crush Tien in all of the rounds. Especially if he is allowed to use any technique that he's performed.

 

[Papasmurf]

Saiyan arc Tenshinhan can win. This one gets one-shotted.

 

[The Great Saiyaman]

Saiyan arc Tenshinhan can win. This one gets one-shotted.

Of course he could. Did you even read my post? I deliberately handicapped Tien to his old DB tournament appearances.

Hiei should quite honestly crush Tien in all of the rounds. Especially if he is allowed to use any technique that he's performed.

They can both use any technique at their disposal.

 

[Flame]

They can both use any technique at their disposal.

Then Hiei definitely beats all these versions of Tien.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Of course he could. Did you even read my post? I deliberately handicapped Tien to his old DB tournament appearances.

Debatable. Saiyan Arc Tenshinhan is still a far closer matchup than any of the versions here, and if treating DB Moon busting as outliers, Hiei would still win.

They can both use any technique at their disposal.

That just puts things in Hiei's favour. Kikoho is nowhere near powerful enough to do anything to Hiei in these scenarios, so all Ten has to fall back on is the Mafuba.

 

[The Great Saiyaman]

But Hiei is so much slower...? And Tien was able to cancel / reverse Kamehamehas, so he could theoretically do the same to Hiei's Kokuryuha. The only way Tien's Kikoho would be useless would be if Hiei was a lot faster, but I just fail to understand how that's possible.

Sure, Ki isn't exactly the same as fire, but Ki is clearly explosive - and Vegeta did throw that actual fireball at Goku in the Saiyan Arc.

Also, remember that Hiei can't fly.

If you want I guess we could add Saiyan Arc Tien to the mix.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Hiei is faster than Tenshinhan and can easily tank the Kikoho in all scenarios. The EoS Hiei in the first two 3 scenarios is at the very least Country level via the statement that an Upper A Class can destroy an entire country, as well as Massively Hypersonic via this calc http://www.narutoforums.com/xfa-blog-entry/yu-yu-hakusho-feat-yusukes-eos-speed.17300/

By comparison, Tenshinhan isn't even Island level with his Kikoho during the 23rd TB, and doesn't surpass double Mach digits in speed. There's barely much difference in scenario 4 either, with Hiei receiving scaling from Toguro's MCB level crater feat, as well as Chu's Mach 19.6 speed feat. Meanwhile, Tenshinhan's Kikoho was only City Block level and doesn't have any feats or scaling to place his speed as high as Hiei's there.

 

[Jerk Store]

Dragon of Darkness Flame destroys.

 

[Son Gokū]

Not sure how the power level scale of YYH to DB/Z/GT/S works, but here are the confirmed levels on YYH:
http://yuyuhakusho.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Level

Based on this specially, IF it was technically the same (which I HIGHLY doubt...), then Hiei wins without breaking a sweat. :/

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The two aren't the same scale, as YYH reads power levels based off three far different stats than the Shouki, Yuuki and Genki that make up battle powers in DB, though Hiei indeed wins without breaking a sweat.