How did Oozaru Goku kill Son Gohan?

[SSJ2]

Where did this happen? Goku is adamant about the fact that he was always asleep early and never looked at full moons. Where and how did this happen?

 

[Power Level Guy]

There is no damage around Gohan's house and Gohan's house is still intact. This battle, however it occurred seems to have happened far away from the house.

This means that the idea of Oozaru Goku crushing Gohan to death while he was sleeping less likely, which makes Oozaru Goku > Gohan more likely I say.

It could still happen, it's possible they fell asleep outside perhaps hunting or fishing one day and Gohan was crushed to death by Goku.

I do think this is probably a good theory still honestly. Gohan has survive Oozaru Goku before and Oozaru Goku isn't exactly going to be targeting anyone specifically while he's raging out. I think Goku probably falls asleep next to Gohan, wakes up in the middle of the night, turns Oozaru and stomps on Gohan as he's transforming.

We should look into Gohan's dialogue with Roshi.

I do think either way, our safest bet as power-scalers is to make Oozaru Goku > Gohan by as much as we can make it, although with all of the power jumps, this can be increasingly hard.

 

[SSJ2]

I do think this is probably a good theory still honestly. Gohan has survive Oozaru Goku before and Oozaru Goku isn't exactly going to be targeting anyone specifically while he's raging out.

Yeah this is my biggest hold up with Oozaru Goku > Gohan. How did Gohan escape the first encounter? Especially if we're going with Oozaru gaining a speed boost as well...

 

[Warmmedown]

The earlier time(s) he survived Oozaru Goku, Goku could have been much weaker. Say Goku's PL was only 4 or lower. That's low enough for Gohan to handle it easily, but enough to recognise that Goku had become absurdly large and strong while transformed. The last time Goku's PL could've been 8-10. If Gohan isn't careful enough, he could be hit and then stepped on. Say if he's trying to stop Goku from walking off a cliff, but without hurting him and then gets hit.

As for Goku claiming he never looks at the full moon, does Goku remember looking at the moon after he transforms (against Pilaf and Roshi)? If not, he could've forgotten about the one time he looked at it. Plus even if in cases of transformation he can usually remember seeing the full moon, if it was while he briefly woke up at night, he may not remember looking at it.

As for lack of house damage, yeh he could have woken up while sleeping outside and seen the moon. It's unlikely Gohan would have Goku sleep outside a full moon night though. They could have been walking on a full moon night and he saw the moon's reflection in a pond. Maybe that's enough to transform him? But going for a walk on that night is still a big risk for Gohan to take. Maybe it was very cloudy and he didn't realise it was a full moon. Goku goes to a pond, the clouds part and he sees the reflection.

Another possibility is Gohan went outside for something. He usually tells Goku when it's a full moon night, so Goku won't look up on that night, for fear of the monster. He went to a village planning to come back before the full moon night so didn't tell Goku the schedule, but then Gohan gets held up. Goku went to sleep as usual, but woke up and then saw the moon. He's far enough from the house that he doesn't destroy it and starts rampaging elsewhere. Gohan gets home and gets killed.

Does Goku know that the monster who killed GG is the full moon monster? Maybe he follows the full moon rule more strictly only after GG's death?

PS just seen this comment on an article. The hell?

 

[Power Level Guy]

Yeah this is my biggest hold up with Oozaru Goku > Gohan. How did Gohan escape the first encounter? Especially if we're going with Oozaru gaining a speed boost as well...

Escaping Oozaru Goku should be quite easy. Look how easily Piccolo was able to avoid Oozaru Gohan.

Oozarus are easy to avoid. They are belligerent fools.

 

[SSJ2]

But would Gohan really leave it to destroy everything? Seems out of character...

 

[SSJ2]

Chapter: 21, P3.7, P4.1
Goku: “It ain’t no lie! My grampa was crushed to death by it!”
Yamcha: “What?!! The martial arts master Son Gohan…!? Th-that monster must be absolutely incredible”
Goku: “Yeah! Even my house and the trees were smashed to bits!”

The house was destroyed... Makes it sound like Gohan was asleep now.

 

[SSJ2]

Gohan definitely seemed to be asleep. Goku went outside in the middle of the night.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Gohan definitely seemed to be asleep. Goku went outside in the middle of the night.

Yep, I agree.

This seems to be the most likely scenario.

 

[Kyo]

You now remember that one dub line where Goku thinks that Vegeta killed Gohan

 

[Power Level Guy]

You now remember that one dub line where Goku thinks that Vegeta killed Gohan

Think that's in the anime as well.

 

[Kyo]

Well in most versions of the anime and the manga he makes that mistake, but then puts 2 and 2 together after Vegeta explains that all Saiyans can transform like that. In the Ocean dub (from what I remember at least) he just thinks Vegeta did it.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Well in most versions of the anime and the manga he makes that mistake, but then puts 2 and 2 together after Vegeta explains that all Saiyans can transform like that. In the Ocean dub (from what I remember at least) he just thinks Vegeta did it.

I gotta look at it again.

 

[GSM123]

Really wish we got to see Goku apologizing to Gohan in the Afterlife like he said he would. We need less Bardock, more Grandpa Gohan.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Really wish we got to see Goku apologizing to Gohan in the Afterlife like he said he would. We need less Bardock, more Grandpa Gohan.

100%

Grandpa Gohan is a legit awesome character. We should get a whole lot more of him. I mean, the person who raised Goku's got his body in the afterlife. It should be Grandpa Gohan there with Kaio as well.

 

[Hector]

There is no damage around Gohan's house and Gohan's house is still intact. This battle, however it occurred seems to have happened far away from the house.

This means that the idea of Oozaru Goku crushing Gohan to death while he was sleeping less likely, which makes Oozaru Goku > Gohan more likely I say.

It could still happen, it's possible they fell asleep outside perhaps hunting or fishing one day and Gohan was crushed to death by Goku.

I do think this is probably a good theory still honestly. Gohan has survive Oozaru Goku before and Oozaru Goku isn't exactly going to be targeting anyone specifically while he's raging out. I think Goku probably falls asleep next to Gohan, wakes up in the middle of the night, turns Oozaru and stomps on Gohan as he's transforming.

We should look into Gohan's dialogue with Roshi.

I do think either way, our safest bet as power-scalers is to make Oozaru Goku > Gohan by as much as we can make it, although with all of the power jumps, this can be increasingly hard.

In my books, Baba Saga Gohan is at 90% of Oozaru Goku. I don't see why he can't have improved a little in the afterlife, so maybe back then he was at 80% of Oozaru Goku.