How did Trunks beat the Androids?

[SSJ2]

I'm referring to the Trunks who Cell killed 24 years in the future (or whatever it was). How did he beat them but lose to Cell?

 

[Papasmurf]

Most likely he got the stop remote from those blueprints they found in Gero's lab, but didn't encounter Cell in the past since Cell hadn't time traveled yet.

 

[SSJ2]

That's a good explanation.

 

[GSM123]

Probably the controller. Cell does say it’s destroyed, but I think he meant Gero’s OG and didn’t know about the secret bluebrints.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

As has already been said, the controller is the most likely option. This version of #17 and #18 clearly weren't just that weak, considering Cell placed them above his Gingertown self and noted that Trunks "somehow" beat them, not to mention this initially questionable part serves as good set up for the reveal about the shutdown remote.

 

[SIAD]

As has already been said, the controller is the most likely option. This version of #17 and #18 clearly weren't just that weak, considering Cell placed them above his Gingertown self and noted that Trunks "somehow" beat them, not to mention this initially questionable part serves as good set up for the reveal about the shutdown remote.

Yes, most likely Future # 17, Future # 18, Cell (Post Gingertown), Vegeta SSJ (Android), Goku SSJ (Android), and Future Trunks SSJ (Android) are all in the same league.

 

[Hector]

For what it's worth, in the anime filler flashback, that Trunks did not transform into a Super Saiyan when Cell killed him. So there is a chance the Z Fighters trained in the ROSAT in that timeline too and Trunks was ambushed and beaten by Cell before he could transform.

 

[Papasmurf]

For what it's worth, in the anime filler flashback, that Trunks did not transform into a Super Saiyan when Cell killed him. So there is a chance the Z Fighters trained in the ROSAT in that timeline too and Trunks was ambushed and beaten by Cell before he could transform.

That flashback also showed Trunks charging at Cell with his sword out, lol. Trunks just lost because he was weaker, the anime was just being :toei as always and fellated base Saiyans (or at least, lessened the gap between their base and SSJ forms).

 

[ahill1]

He killed him with his own power, likely.

 

[Hector]

That flashback also showed Trunks charging at Cell with his sword out, lol.

That's my point. That Trunks didn't know who Cell was, so he got tricked by his suppressed chi, underestimated him and attacked without transforming into a Super Saiyan.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Just remembered that the Daizenshuu's timeline explanation (regardless of its other inaccuracies) officially confirms the shutdown controller was what Trunks used to kill #17 and #18.

So yeah, case closed.

 

[SIAD]

Just remembered that the Daizenshuu's timeline explanation (regardless of its other inaccuracies) officially confirms the shutdown controller was what Trunks used to kill #17 and #18.

So yeah, case closed.

The truth is that this Super well explained, I do not see any inaccuracies. Surely in story 4 the Z Warriors discovered the controls to stop the Androids, but since stories 1 and 4, like 2 and 3, are similar, in story 4 The Androids are good and let them live, until After at least 20 years, Cell is born and absorbs them.

 

[ahill1]

I also see no reason for this Trunks to have travelled to another timeline until setting his time machine to go to the main timeline. That'd be his 1st time trip.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I also see no reason for this Trunks to have travelled to another timeline until setting his time machine to go to the main timeline. That'd be his 1st time trip.

Piccolo's hypothesis that Trunks was going to tell the Dragon Team he'd beaten #17 and #18 implies he'd already travelled back in time in order to form a bond with them, considering it'd be pretty pointless to tell that to a group you hadn't met yet that may be suspicious of you and it seems unlikely Trunks could obtain the blueprints in his own timeline.
The question of why he didn't end up in the main timeline initially in this scenario is something else though, but there are some explanations. Perhaps this Trunks' handling of the time machines specifics was less refined than his other self's when considering the Future Trunks we know even fumbled when it came to having a complete grasp of time travel at times, for instance. The main problem with the Daizenshuu timeline is how Timeline 4 is "a Cell Games without Trunks" when there should be no Cell to speak of, though the Chozenshuu rectifies this by completely removing timeline 4.

In any case, this is still the only source I'm aware of to officially specify what method Cell's Trunks used to beat #17 and #18.

 

[Papasmurf]

It was also stated that Trunks used the controller in SuperSonic Warriors

 

[SIAD]

I realized that the great mistake of Story 4 was to put the CG in the year 767. Surely the CG in that Timeline would be around the year 788 onwards. Surely that mistake was a slip. I agree with everything else.

I personally believe in the DBM Theory. Story 3 is the same as Story 2, but with the difference that Trunks (Story 3) didn't return to his Timeline as strong and instead got the controls from the Androids, then Trunks was programming the Time Machine and was interrupted and killed by Cell. Surely that's why Cell came to another Timeline, because Trunks didn't program it in its entirety.

Story 4 was similar to Story 1, but with the difference that in Story 4 there was no Cell from the Future. The Z Warriors realized that Androids are not bad and end up living with them. About 21 years pass, Cell is born, absorbs the Androids and creates the CG.

 

[ahill1]

I also see no reason for this Trunks to have travelled to another timeline until setting his time machine to go to the main timeline. That'd be his 1st time trip.

Piccolo's hypothesis that Trunks was going to tell the Dragon Team he'd beaten #17 and #18 implies he'd already travelled back in time in order to form a bond with them, considering it'd be pretty pointless to tell that to a group you hadn't met yet that may be suspicious of you and it seems unlikely Trunks could obtain the blueprints in his own timeline.
The question of why he didn't end up in the main timeline initially in this scenario is something else though, but there are some explanations. Perhaps this Trunks' handling of the time machines specifics was less refined than his other self's when considering the Future Trunks we know even fumbled when it came to having a complete grasp of time travel at times, for instance. The main problem with the Daizenshuu timeline is how Timeline 4 is "a Cell Games without Trunks" when there should be no Cell to speak of, though the Chozenshuu rectifies this by completely removing timeline 4.

In any case, this is still the only source I'm aware of to officially specify what method Cell's Trunks used to beat #17 and #18.

Piccolo's hypothesis implies nothing of the sort.

Plus, the fact that he ended up in the main timeline rather than in the timeline he supposedly travelled up to, implies he didn't set his time machine to give everyone a "everything went ok"... but to create a tomeline free of the androids.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

It was also stated that Trunks used the controller in SuperSonic Warriors

It was funny seeing Trunks try to use the remote control on Cell.

 

[Papasmurf]

Why didn't Gero program Cell with the knowledge of how to convert humans to cyborgs so he could complete his evolution even without #17 and #18? :elmo

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Why didn't Gero program Cell with the knowledge of how to convert humans to cyborgs so he could complete his evolution even without #17 and #18? :elmo

Probably due to time constraints. Cell was already something Gero wasn't aware if he'd see to fruition in his lifetime and we aren't given a clear idea of when exactly Gero started creating the organic models like #17 and #18, being quite possibly something he'd yet to have success with prior to the 3 year gap. Had he survived up until the late stages of the project, he may have been able to implement this into the design or even offer his own cells to the project, but we all know why that wouldn't work.
It's also possible that, even if Gero had done this, the general lack of resources in the ruined future would make it something Cell couldn't accomplish regardless.