How reliable do you consider Toriyama's interviews to be?

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I was thinking this merits its own topic now since the subject has been discussed many times in other threads.

Until BOG/FNF and the slew of absolutely terrible plot holes Toriyama brewed up through his writing and "explanations," I tried following them but honestly can't say things he says in random interviews mean shit anymore. Many people play the "he's the creator" argument and I used to think that a good enough reason to give him a pass with the absurd shit he makes up, but the problem is that he says things in new interviews during the same timeframe that openly contradict what he said - case in point being his statement that everyone was at their peak during the BOG events, yet he says during the same timeframe that Goku is a 6 to Beerus's 10 and has the potential to grow stronger the more he fights, as well as that he intends to make Goku and Vegeta stronger but not as strong as Beerus and Whis.

Many more interviews are contradicted by Super on the regular, which he openly considers a part of his own storyline with direct input that Toyotaro and Toei expanded on. At this point I can't help but use the "AT is senile" card because he himself doesn't consider his own interviews to be worth following in stories he is involved in, not that I think he even remembers them in the first place when he's gone back on old interviews decades before the new material was even a thing.

I only consider his interviews even remotely authoritative when he says things that don't really affect the overall storyline, like #16's human model being Gero's son, since nothing he says will really ever be considered in his own writings.
 

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I'm not sure this question has a clear answer. He is a silly old gag writer, and he has even said that he doesn't care about consistency. I'm of the opinion that anything he says now, cannot override the original manga. Yes, he created it, and he deserves a special throne atop the fandom, but we have to draw a line somewhere. Whatever he says on Super is extremely reliable, since that's ongoing and he holds the pencil and the eraser, but when it comes to anything before Super, I don't think he is reliable. This is a guy that thought SSJ3 was SSJ2. He clearly doesn't even know or really care about his own series.
 

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That's a good way to look at it. I'm not a fan of the guidebook-hating craze among a lot of fans who'd rather denounce guidebook statements for being written by Shueisha/AT rather than being contradictory, but I myself have come to pay little mind to guidebook statements they make as well for the same reason. AT has said on numerous accounts that even a doujinshi writer who he hired to only do the art knows much more about the series than him, and that he no longer cares to pay mind to trivia and consistency when he writes - this is the guy who said Beerus wiped out the dinosaurs during in interview released when BOG was the current thing (and had a dinosaur in it). He doesn't remember or consider guidebook statements from years ago, not to mention most of the ones in new guidebooks are directly copied from the Daizenshuu that he had no part in, and he doesn't even pay mind to his own manga when saying and writing stuff nowadays.
 

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There's no need to take Toriyama's word regarding the original manga. But we must take his words when it comes to the new material.
 

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I don't really think too much of his interviews now (especially because a lot of it sounds like just saying it to shock people, even-though I don't think that's his aim. Just the things he says), unless what he says doesn't contradict what happened or what might happen in the future.

He himself said he doesn't care about consistency or how he writes his story now, so why should I?

His old interviews are more reliable, though I think, so I could reliably use them in a debate or take seriously.
 

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Yeah if Toriyama's interviews conflict with what happens in the old series, or in Super itself I'll take what happens in the universe over his words in a heartbeat. He's shown himself to be pretty thoughtless about the stuff he says, and "I pay no mind to consistency" really doesn't help lift the impression that :troll is just full of shit.
 

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Papasmurf said:
like #16's human model being Gero's son, since nothing he says will really ever be considered in his own writings.
Wait, isn't him fully robot?

Anyway I'd like to give his interviews credit if there isn't contradictions in the manga. If he says something that doesn't contradict the manga, then fine, otherwise I'd just call it BS and move on. I like to take the manga as the 1st source of information, since it portrays his true intentions back in the days.
 

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He stated that Gero modeled #16 in the image of his deceased son, who was an RRA soldier killed by an enemy bullet. I'm like, that's weird, but it doesn't actually contradict anything, so whatever.
 

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I don't take his newer interviews seriously at all
 

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I don't pay much attention to any of it. It's become pretty sad.
 

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Not very reliable if if contradict the original manga. The small things like 17/18's real names or Boo existed since time immemorial are okay to me.
 

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I think our challenge is to find ways around his contradictions...
-For Freeza>Base contradiction: MSSJ has a greater multiplier than SSJ and Eighteen was toying with the kids.
-For SSJ3 Goku>Gohan contradiction: Goku needed one minute to access SSJ3's full power.
 

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Well Vegeta said Goku can generate to ''destroy'' Boo which seems to be a huge blastr not energy.
 

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100% reliable

withheldforprivacy said:
I think our challenge is to find ways around his contradictions...
-For Freeza>Base contradiction: MSSJ has a greater multiplier than SSJ and Eighteen was toying with the kids.
-For SSJ3 Goku>Gohan contradiction: Goku needed one minute to access SSJ3's full power.

-Freeza > base Saiyans isn't from Toriyama
-Vegeta said Goku was #1 before knowing about SSJ3 "full power"
 

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