How strong was Vegeta post Senzu bean?

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I'm referring to when Goku arrived against the Ginyu Force. Vegeta was able to track Goku's movement directly after eating the Senzu bean while the Ginyus were not able to. Yet he still revered Goku's suppressed level as possibly being a Super Saiyan, so clearly he was still far behind that level. Should he be on par with the Ginyus right at that moment?
 

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Vegeta knew 60k was not Goku’s full power right? Because he didn’t any business with Ginyu Goku and he wasn’t even there to see Kaio-Ken Goku.
 

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I think he suspected Goku had more power in store. He was super cautious until realizing Ginyu-Goku couldn't use Goku's body properly after all.
Seems unlikely since he thinks Ginyu and Goku are a good match. I don't think he suspects more power from either of them.
 

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Seems unlikely since he thinks Ginyu and Goku are a good match. I don't think he suspects more power from either of them.
Ginyu was able to tell Goku hid far more power than just 63-65K or whatever from fighting him for a few pages, after watching Goku fight against 3 opponents I think Vegeta had a good idea of what to expect, just not 120K from Ginyu or 90K. I think he expects both of them to be at least 75K.
 

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Ginyu was able to tell Goku hid far more power than just 63-65K or whatever from fighting him for a few pages, after watching Goku fight against 3 opponents I think Vegeta had a good idea of what to expect, just not 120K from Ginyu or 90K. I think he expects both of them to be at least 75K.
Ginyu experienced it though, I think fighting someone and watching someone fight are different things.
 

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I do wonder how strong Vegeta is against Jeice though?
I think by that point he could feasibly be 250k. Goku thought it was over if Ginyu took over Vegeta's body. I don't see why Goku would assume that Ginyu would be able to access Vegeta's full power when he was only able to use 23,000/90,000 of Goku's.
 

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Why though? Vegeta was skilled at ki manipulation and the only thing he didn't have compared to Goku was Kaioken.
 

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Why though? Vegeta was skilled at ki manipulation and the only thing he didn't have compared to Goku was Kaioken.

Is he actually as skilled as Goku though? He treated Goku’s Ki control with those bursts as something completely impressive.

I’m not sure if Ginyu is on the same level as Vegeta, probably not, but he himself was no newbie to Ki control either. I always took Ginyu not being capable of accessing Goku’s full power as Goku’s body being very complex to use since he trained with masters. Going by Super even Vegeta’s Ki control was very lackluster before Yardrat.
 

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Vegeta’s body is probably easier to use than Goku’s.
100%, Vegeta just came from the same mentality as the Freeza Force. Purely driven by strength. Ginyu can most likely be able to harness 100% of Vegeta's power instantly. I used to argue with CC about this back in the day, but now we have actual evidence with what Ginyu did with Tagoma. Goku was very in tune with his body and did all sorts of tricks to get the most out of his body, Vegeta is exactly like the Freeza Force fighters, except he's adopted the Earthlings style of ki sensing just recently.

Goku's 180,000 should be way beyond what Vegeta is capable of.
 

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