I found a reason why Vegeta stomped Monster Zarbon so hard

[kriss-]

Despite the two being within the same battle power, I found this:

Chapter: 263 (DBZ 69), P2.3
Context: Zarbon informs Vegeta that his power increases when he transforms.
Zarbon: I don't become unnecessarily large like Saiyan monkeys! Only my power increases! Overwhelmingly so!

So while Zarbon had a strength level that rivaled Vegeta, he was still fighting him at the speed that he had at around 20,000. Even though he was able to resist his strength level, Zarbon would still be getting continuously pummeled by someone much, much faster then him. Which is why he got wrecked so hard.

 

[Six Trails]

He was faster than Vegeta in their first round, though. I think he says "only power" because he's referring to the fact that he doesn't become huge and thus more vulnerable like great apes.

 

[kriss-]

There is usually always a clear distinction made in Dragonball between power and speed. His statement was fairly straight forward.

As for his reference to Saiyan monkeys, he's making a comparison between his transformation and Vegeta's, which obviously increases his size and makes him easier to hit. However, nothing is said about his speed increasing as well.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Monster Zarbon was clearly faster. Vegeta dodged Zarbon's attack and is quickly grabbed by him before Vegeta realized he was even near him.

Normal Zarbon was moving like a statue. In other words, slow as hell. He's not literally saying his power is the only thing that increases.

 

[ahill1]

Did Vegeta's speed increase as Ozaru?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Goku said he was faster than he expected, but nothing about being faster overall.

 

[kriss-]

Monster Zarbon was clearly faster. Vegeta dodged Zarbon's attack and is quickly grabbed by him before Vegeta realized he was even near him.

Normal Zarbon was moving like a statue. In other words, slow as hell. He's not literally saying his power is the only thing that increases.

I went over the Manga and Monster Zarbon was unable to strike Vegeta at 30,000. This occurred directly after he transformed into his monster form and just prior to Vegeta throwing sand in his eyes.

There was no situation where Zarbon was able to gain the upper-hand on Vegeta while he was in his monster form and Vegeta was at 30,000. He got absolutely wrecked. Despite keeping an eye on Krillen and Bulma, he was still fast enough to evade Zarbon whilst he charged at him.

So I will say that my argument still stands. Zarbon was heavily outclassed in terms of speed. During their final bout', where Zarbon is attempting to strike Vegeta and before the final punch that did him in, Vegeta was able to block every attack without being hit one time.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

That's fine. My point is he had to have gotten faster because he was faster than 24k Vegeta after transforming in their previous fight. Vegeta said normal Zarbon was slow as fuck, so he can't be that slow after transforming. It wouldn't make any sense.

Zarbon after being knocked into the water was able to fly towards Vegeta and dodge all of this beams. This was enough to surprise Vegeta as well. I guess my point is Monster Zarbon is faster than he is normally. This doesn't mean he can't be slower than Vegeta. The two were wailing on each other at the end before Vegeta punched through him.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

increase power = increase speed
increase speed =/= increase power

 

[sei'taer]

Context matters.

When you're talking about Saiyans transforming into massive monsters, and you say that when you transform only your power increases, you're referring to it in the context of how much larger you get.

I went over the Manga and Monster Zarbon was unable to strike Vegeta at 30,000. This occurred directly after he transformed into his monster form and just prior to Vegeta throwing sand in his eyes.

The argument wasn't that monster zarbon was fast compared to post zenkai vegeta, but that he was fast in comparison to pre-monster zarbon based on vegeta outclassing zarbon at 24k but getting his ass handed to him by monster zarbon.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Base Zarbon was only speedblitzed by Vegeta when he got mad and lost his yuuki. Monster Zarbon did not have a
large speed advantage over Vegeta. Maybe his transformation increased his speed, but not as much as his strength.

 

[sei'taer]

Base Zarbon was only speedblitzed by Vegeta when he got mad and lost his yuuki. Monster Zarbon did not have a
large speed advantage over Vegeta. Maybe his transformation increased his speed, but not as much as his strength.

His transformation doesn't have to increase his speed as much as his strength for the argument that his transformation increases his speed to work.

Zarbon goes from being unable to hit vegeta, to vegeta being unable to react to zarbon grabbing him not once but twice.

His transformation clearly increases his speed.

 

[kriss-]

As you can see from Vegeta's expression, he was completely blown away by Zarbon's transformation.

And there was a good chance that Zarbon managed to catch him off-guard, which is essentially what happened here.

As for the later portion of the fight, Vegeta was fairly pissed off that Zarbon managed to damage him. He simply lost his cool -like Nappa did against Goku, and was less effective over the duration of the fight.