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Huh? Kaioken is Kaioken x2.
 

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This
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And he even stated that Kaioken 2x wasn't enough against Vegeta.
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I can't see the images. Kaioken and Kaioken x2 are the same thing.

Chapter: 229 (DBZ 35), P1.1
Narrator: “Vegeta's strength has greatly surpassed what Goku had figured on...! That power was such that not even the Kaio-Ken, which doubled Goku's battle power, could give Goku the upper hand... What will you do?! Goku!!"
 

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I know what you're referring to. Kaioken and x2 are the same thing. The narrator states it in the quote I just posted. As for why Goku dubs it x2 the second time he uses it, I don't know, but they are one in the same.
 

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But after Goku knew that Vegeta was stronger than his Kaioken, below the image it says ''Next: Kaio-ken x 2...!'' which could imply that the Kaioken and Kaioken 2x are different from each other. http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v19/c034/14.html
 

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I disagree. The narrator already confirms that regular Kaioken doubles your power, so what would you suggest Kaioken x2 does?
 

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:troll ?

Also after the narrator stated that, Goki used Kaioken 2x and stated that still wasn't enough which could implies that Vegeta > Goku Kaioken 2x > Goku Kaioken.
 

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Because Goku never said it himself yet, only the narrator did. Goku is just confirming the narrator's words by saying that Kaioken is useless.
 

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Kaioken x2 is x2.00000000001, they just didn't feel like adding all those zeros and a one when Goku yelled it out cause of coolness factors and shit.

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From what I had explained to me once, the only real difference is the way it's phrased in Japanese. Kaio-ken doubles your power. This is shown when goku (pegged by ginyu at about 85k) reaches 180k with a regular kaio-ken. With kaio-ken x 2, goku at 8,000+ was still weaker than vegeta at 18,000.

So kaio-ken and kaio-ken x 2 are the same. Both double your power.
 
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