Initial Young Piccolo Daimao

[SSJ2]

How strong do you think he was? Do you think he should be stronger than 100% Old Piccolo by default?

 

[ahill1]

likely considerably stronger than FP old Piccolo considering that iirc, Goku showed to be somewhat surprised when piccolo announced he'd power up. granted that old piccolo didn't show his true power against Goku, but I think little Goku could estimate his full power based on him stating he was using < 50%, but since little Goku seems terrible with math, maybe not.

it's also worth noting that piano stated the difference between old and young daimao is such that a comparison can't even be made and piano seemed uneasy and somewhat worried when kid Goku began dominating initial young daimao, in contrast with his confidence in the battle against old daimao, as back then he knew piccolo had deep reserves, which might imply piano was unaware about young daimao having deep reserves but still regarded him as way above his decreased by age power.

so yeah, I'd say even his initial level could feasibly be above his FP old self.

 

[SSJ2]

[mention]ahill1[/mention] semi related, but do you think Goku’s power up from the Super God Water is 10x? I’ve gone with it before but it seems hard to fit in now..

Goku post Tambourine: 50

Initial Old Piccolo: 50
40% Old Piccolo: 100
FP Old Piccolo: 250

Initial Young Piccolo: 500
-Full power: 950

Initial Galu: 600
-Full Power: 1,000


Thoughts?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

For reasons ahill stated, Initial Prime Daimao is at least somewhat stronger than his old self's full power, if not by a large amount.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Yes, but still, numbers in that saga aren't as haxed as most people think. I have the Old Piccolo who tanked Goku's KHH higher than 40% of his power, for reasons I have explained in the past.

 

[ahill1]

@ahill1 semi related, but do you think Goku’s power up from the Super God Water is 10x? I’ve gone with it before but it seems hard to fit in now..

Goku post Tambourine: 50

Initial Old Piccolo: 50
40% Old Piccolo: 100
FP Old Piccolo: 250

Initial Young Piccolo: 500
-Full power: 950

Initial Galu: 600
-Full Power: 1,000


Thoughts?

yeah, I like the 10x boost theory, which is supported by the Oozaru montage that appears in the anime when Goku feels his hidden power. like, it isn't anything definitive, ofc, but it's something cool to work around.

but yeah, we'd have to shrink the gaps a little if wishing to work out around it. I'd say the gap between less than half old piccolo and kid Goku can be lessened... while piccolo tanked goku's KMHMH, I don't think amplification at that point was anything too impressive. then maybe we assume that the less than half is something close to 50%, like 45% and lower the gap between old piccolo and initial young piccolo a little, to 66% instead of 50%, which I think is enough to be classified as an entirely different new level, still.



Son Goku 50
old piccolo (less than half) 75
old piccolo (100%) 160
initial young piccolo 240
initial Goku (post water) 270
full power young piccolo 480
full power Goku 500


if one doesn't feel like lessening those gaps a little, maybe they can assume Goku got considerably stronger post being healed up at Karin's tower, therein his 10x boost fitting with all the more spacing up gaps.