Is #19 surviving hits from sick SSJ Goku a good indicator...

[ahill1]

of his strength? I mean, a tired base Goku survived more than one hit from 50% Freeza...

 

[Jeff Styles]

I wouldn't say strength, but durability.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Most of the surviving feats means nothing in DB at all. So no, the Androids were hyped and to have them one shotted by Goku would be ridiculous.

 

[ahill1]

So how strong should they be?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

They were said to be greater than Freeza or initial SSjin Trunks perhaps even SSjin Yadrat Goku as well. But it's just that they're not ridiculously strong that can kill the entire Z fighters that's all.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

I have the gap Initial Sick Goku/Nineteen at least 2x, considering Goku caught 19's
whole body, while it was being launched like a homing missile, with one hand.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Not strength, but durability. Same with Piccolo and 20. He's shown to be far weaker than the SSJs when even after absorbing Goku's Kamehameha he has some trouble to hit a even weaker Goku.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Most of the surviving feats means nothing in DB at all. So no, the Androids were hyped and to have them one shotted by Goku would be ridiculous.

Ginyu Tokusentai got pretty hyped, yet Galu oneshotted Reacoom and Butta. :molest

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Most of the surviving feats means nothing in DB at all. So no, the Androids were hyped and to have them one shotted by Goku would be ridiculous.

Ginyu Tokusentai got pretty hyped, yet Galu oneshotted Reacoom and Butta. :molest

That's because there's a new hype in town and that's Goku with his power after training on 100x gravity and a Zenkai abuse. Similarly with #19, once he beaten Goku, he got destroyed by Vegeta who is the new hype in the town. [I'm the HYPE!!! if you know what I mean ].

 

[SSJ2]

50% Freeze was never hitting Goku with all he had.

 

[ahill1]

50% Freeze was never hitting Goku with all he had.

After the Kaioken x20 KMHMH Freeza probably did hit him with all he had considering he was pretty angry towards Goku. I also don't think there'd make sense for Freeza to make a case of only needing 50% to beat Goku if he wasn't using it in his blows.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

I would never take surviving hits as an indicator of strength. Vegeta survived the Kaioken x4 Kamehameha, and in turn, a completely drained Goku could survive blows from Oozaru Vegeta. Not to mention that #19 is a robot, and as such has more durability than a person.

 

[Six Trails]

50% Freeze was never hitting Goku with all he had.

Exactly. He was toying around and drawing out the fight for fun. I don't get why people think that he would be using his full force.

 

[Boo Brand Milk]

Spoiler

 

[ahill1]

50% Freeze was never hitting Goku with all he had.

Exactly. He was toying around and drawing out the fight for fun. I don't get why people think that he would be using his full force.

Even here?
http://mangaseeonline.us/read-online/Dragon-Ball-chapter-120-index-2-page-15.html
Freeza was angry towards what Goku did to him with the Kaioken x20 and seemingly attacked a weakened base Goku with all he had. I don't think he was holding back anything there.

Besides, what Freeza stated was that he wouldn't kill Goku with something like that, referring to the technique he had just used to slice up the planet:
http://mangaseeonline.us/read-online/Dragon-Ball-chapter-119-index-2-page-6.html
That's different from admitting he was pulling his punches against Goku, just that a technique like that would not be used.

We also have 50% Freeza surviving many blows from SSJ Goku, and the difference there was significantly above 2x. It just seems that surviving a beating is rather inconsistent and generally dependant of the plot, and in #19's case it's stated he is more up to take a beating due to not feeling pain at all.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I think it was a good indication of his durability prowess. Gero said #19's energy would run dry if the fight continued without him absorbing any energy, so I assume he had a lot of energy to take a beaten by someone far above him.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

The only time Freeza full an effort on his punch was when Goku bite Freeza's tail iirc.

 

[ahill1]

Goku did bite Freeza's tail when this latter was fighting without his hands, that is, before using 50%.

 

[DBZAOTA482]

Hardly considering how shit Goku's condition was in general.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

We have pretty much nothing else to go on, so sure.