Is Mr. Boo the same power wise as fat Boo

[ahill1]

Mr. Boo as the one who fought Kid Boo. Do you think he's the same, power wise, as fat Boo, or instead he is still its weakened version (Good Boo) that lost most of his powers by releasing Grey Boo?

Is there an official statement from a respectable guidebook? I don't think there is anything definitive in the manga.

 

[SSJ2]

It might be arguable that he is Fat Boo again given that Kid Boo had no other influences within himself, so maybe Good Boo and Pure Evil Boo recombined when Kid Boo formed.

I don't believe this to be the case though. I think it's more likely that it was Good Boo. Pure Boo was handling Mr. Boo with his legs only and was never entirely serious. Mr. Boo landed some attacks of course but looked far less impressive than a SSJ3 tier fighter.

 

[Spiral-Force]

I haven't come across anything that supports them being equivalent strength.

Is there something from the manga that you'd say is worth re-analyzing on the topic?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I don’t see why it wouldn’t be his original power. He only lost power because he split from Evil Boo, but Evil Boo doesn’t exist anymore.

 

[SSJ2]

I don’t see why it wouldn’t be his original power. He only lost power because he split from Evil Boo, but Evil Boo doesn’t exist anymore.

Then why would he gain it back if Pure Evil Boo doesn't exist? What we know is that Pure Evil Boo absorbed Good Boo, a weaker entity that is different from Fat Boo. The absorption worked no differently than any of the others. The body that Vegeta ripped out of Super Boo should be the same one that got absorbed.

 

[Son.Gohan84]

I'd actually say yes tbh. He gave kid Buu a pretty good fight.

 

[ScottyFamalam]

I'm pretty sure he's equal to the Fat Boo that fought SS3 Gokuu. That was the strongest Fat Boo got while calm.

The strongest Fat Boo got in general was when the dog and Satan got shot. He was probably equal to Super Boo in that moment.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Then why would he gain it back if Pure Evil Boo doesn't exist? What we know is that Pure Evil Boo absorbed Good Boo, a weaker entity that is different from Fat Boo. The absorption worked no differently than any of the others. The body that Vegeta ripped out of Super Boo should be the same one that got absorbed.

Because what happened to Evil Boo then? Whatever makes the difference between Evil Boo and Kid Boo must have gone to Good Boo.

That absorption is different from others though. Boo had a full transformation and said he wouldn’t be himself anymore if Good was ripped.

 

[Spiral-Force]

The Buu that got absorbed was a vessel that supplies power. Why would power be distributed to the absorbed entity?

 

[ahill1]

I haven't come across anything that supports them being equivalent strength.

Is there something from the manga that you'd say is worth re-analyzing on the topic?

One thing I noticed is the fact Goku had no idea how Super Boo was formed (Vegeta just mentioned it when Goku had no idea fat Boo was inside Super Boo) so Goku had no reason to think Mr. Boo was way weaker than fat Boo. I think that if Mr. Boo performed to less than 50% of what fat Boo would be able to vs Kid Boo, Goku would comment on how weakened fat Boo seemed, though he didn't notice anything weird when watching the Mr. Boo vs kid Boo clash.

 

[Spiral-Force]

@ahill1 Wouldn't any confusion be cleared by the time Mr Buu fought Kid Buu? Like you mentioned, Vegeta explained Buu's split and amalgamation while in Buu's insides.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

The Buu that got absorbed was a vessel that supplies power. Why would power be distributed to the absorbed entity?

When Fat Boo was removed Super Boo turned into a different Boo from the one that was before. The only way this could happen is if a mix up between both Boos happened.

 

[Spiral-Force]

Good Buu had an internal presence in Super Buu. Where was Evil Buu to initiate a supposed mix up?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Good Buu had an internal presence in Super Buu. Where was Evil Buu to initiate a supposed mix up?

Who knows? Boo's inner workings are a complete mystery. The thing is, whatever made the difference between Evil Boo and Kid Boo was lost when Good Boo was ripped out. If the evil half came out different in the second split, the good half must be different too. Otherwise were did that power go?

 

[Papasmurf]

I think South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin's essence remained inside Good Boo following the re-merging which is why removing him reverted Evil Boo to the original form from before the Kais were absorbed, but Kid Boo took most of their God Power (albeit was unable to use it).

 

[ahill1]

@ahill1 Wouldn't any confusion be cleared by the time Mr Buu fought Kid Buu? Like you mentioned, Vegeta explained Buu's split and amalgamation while in Buu's insides.

Yeah, but it's curious that Goku didn't comment on that. He took that fight as naturally, not noticing how fat Boo should have been able to do way better.

Goku thought of the fat Boo inside Super Boo as the very first one and wondered if he got absorbed too. Vegeta just gave a pretty general idea on how things went, saying the thin Boo came out of this (the fat) one, turned him into chocolate and ate him. Goku wouldn't know who the thin Boo was or whether fat Boo even lost power when the thin Boo came out of him, since Vegeta didn't mention that. I think Goku could even think of the thin Boo as Super Boo, since Goku thought the other ones turned into chocolate might be there, so he was likely considering Super Boo eating fat Boo like he did with Kuririn, Bulma and co. IMO

Since Piccolo wondered how the battle would have gone if Goku went all out vs fat Boo, I think Kid Boo vs Mr. Boo may reflect the gap of a serious SSJ3 Goku vs fat Boo.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I think South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin's essence remained inside Good Boo following the re-merging which is why removing him reverted Evil Boo to the original form from before the Kais were absorbed, but Kid Boo took most of their God Power (albeit was unable to use it).

If Kid kept both their god powers dormant inside him, that would explain why he turns into Buff Boo for a second.

 

[Spiral-Force]

Who knows? Boo's inner workings are a complete mystery. The thing is, whatever made the difference between Evil Boo and Kid Boo was lost when Good Boo was ripped out. If the evil half came out different in the second split, the good half must be different too. Otherwise were did that power go?

Kid Buu, being the original, was not spawned from separate Buu's coming together to produce him, so I don't see why he would be part of an Evil Buu/Good Buu equation.

What we do know is Kid Buu > Evil Buu, what we also know is that Kid Buu didn't cause Evil Buu; Fat Buu did. In terms of why Buu was factory reset, the only potential variable I can think of is the act of yanking out an internal body part to separate Good Buu, as opposed to coming out as a gas-like substance like Evil Buu.

Yeah, but it's curious that Goku didn't comment on that. He took that fight as naturally, not noticing how fat Boo should have been able to do way better.

Goku thought of the fat Boo inside Super Boo as the very first one and wondered if he got absorbed too. Vegeta just gave a pretty general idea on how things went, saying the thin Boo came out of this (the fat) one, turned him into chocolate and ate him. Goku wouldn't know who the thin Boo was or whether fat Boo even lost power when the thin Boo came out of him, since Vegeta didn't mention that. I think Goku could even think of the thin Boo as Super Boo, since Goku thought the other ones turned into chocolate might be there, so he was likely considering Super Boo eating fat Boo like he did with Kuririn, Bulma and co. IMO

Since Piccolo wondered how the battle would have gone if Goku went all out vs fat Boo, I think Kid Boo vs Mr. Boo may reflect the gap of a serious SSJ3 Goku vs fat Boo.

I don't take Goku's lack of comment as an anti-point to what I'm saying. More like he understood what's going on already, it just took time. Goku anticipated Buu getting weaker as a result of absorbed beings being severed from those bodily compartments they were in. Wouldn't the standard pattern of logic be that a separation occurring for Buu would result in power weakening?

Goku knew changes were occuring with Buu's power, he just wasn't there to see how it unfolded. If anything, it'd be way more alarming for Goku not to comment on how a Buu stronger than Fat Buu can pop out of him with no power loss.

 

[ahill1]

Kid Buu, being the original, was not spawned from separate Buu's coming together to produce him, so I don't see why he would be part of an Evil Buu/Good Buu equation.

What we do know is Kid Buu > Evil Buu, what we also know is that Kid Buu didn't cause Evil Buu; Fat Buu did. In terms of why Buu was factory reset, the only potential variable I can think of is the act of yanking out an internal body part to separate Good Buu, as opposed to coming out as a gas-like substance like Evil Buu.




I don't take Goku's lack of comment as an anti-point to what I'm saying. More like he understood what's going on already, it just took time. Goku anticipated Buu getting weaker as a result of absorbed beings being severed from those bodily compartments they were in. Wouldn't the standard pattern of logic be that a separation occurring for Buu would result in power weakening?

Goku knew changes were occuring with Buu's power, he just wasn't there to see how it unfolded. If anything, it'd be way more alarming for Goku not to comment on how a Buu stronger than Fat Buu can pop out of him with no power loss.

Well, Goku wondered if the other ones who were turned into chocolate were there too, as bodily compartments, like Bulma, Kuririn... So I think it's doubtful Goku thought Boo's power up came from turning fat Boo into chocolate as Super Boo needed to point out that with fat Boo, it was a separate case, not linked with those other ones he turned into chocolate and had no power gain.

Goku didn't know there was a grey Boo who was weaker than the original fat Boo and then, by absorbing fat Boo, he got the power boost... I don't think it's be weird for Goku to think the Boo coming out of fat Boo was already the way more powerful Boo --- like, a power that fat Boo had dormant inside him but couldn't control... And then, that being Super Boo, he ate fat Boo just out of "convenience" like he did with the humans when turning them into chocolate. Goku was also puzzled when Super Boo said he'd not be himself anymore if fat Boo was detached, so I don't think he was thinking of anything there related to fat Boo serving as a power vessel for Super Boo.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Kid Buu, being the original, was not spawned from separate Buu's coming together to produce him, so I don't see why he would be part of an Evil Buu/Good Buu equation.

What we do know is Kid Buu > Evil Buu, what we also know is that Kid Buu didn't cause Evil Buu; Fat Buu did. In terms of why Buu was factory reset, the only potential variable I can think of is the act of yanking out an internal body part to separate Good Buu, as opposed to coming out as a gas-like substance like Evil Buu.

So you think Evil Boo faded into thin air?