Is this the renaissance of Weekly-Shōnen-Jump?

[Fantastische Hure]

Back in the 80s/90s we know that was the highest circulation of Weekly-Shōnen-Jump ever. DragonBall was leading the ship, but tons of other very popular series were running around that time too. Fist of the North-Star, Captain-Tsubasa, Yu-Yu-Hakusho, Saint-Seiya, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, City-Hunter etc.

Now actually looks like quite a promising time for Weekly-Shōnen-Jump. One-Piece is leading the ship, but you also have:

Boku no Hero-Academia
Dr. Stone
Promised Never-Land (which is apparently ending soon anyway)
Kimetsu no Yaiba

There is also the new series from the Naruto author. The sales could be huge.

I'm not saying this is anywhere close to the DragonBall era but could be a second.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

That still looks like very little.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I mean that's the most stacked that has been since some-time.

Also I forgot your favourite, Hiatus x Hiatus. 2 2 2

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

I mean that's the most stacked that has been since some-time.

Also I forgot your favourite, Hiatus x Hiatus. 2 2 2

Togashi is holding the chapters off so One Piece doesn't look bad.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I mean that's the most stacked that has been since some-time.

Also I forgot your favourite, Hiatus x Hiatus. 2 2 2

Togashi is holding the chapters off so One Piece doesn't look bad.

If it helps you sleep at night

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

I mean that's the most stacked that has been since some-time.

Also I forgot your favourite, Hiatus x Hiatus. 2 2 2

Togashi is holding the chapters off so One Piece doesn't look bad.

If it helps you sleep at night

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Nah, but honestly you are so intelligent you probably must be right on some level.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Nah, but honestly you are so intelligent you probably must be right on some level.

I have an IQ of 1 gorjillion

 

[Captain Cadaver]

In terms of sales, yes compared to the late 00s/early 10s, mainly due to the foreign market being a bigger factor (as well as the decline in western comic book sales) and the loss of 2/3 of the "Big Three" allowing new series to have more of a shot; of which would've failed to become the next big thing at a time when Naruto and Bleach were running just like Toriko did.

In terms of actual quality in the series, however, it's the lowest Jump's ever been at.

 

[SSJ2]

Nah, but honestly you are so intelligent you probably must be right on some level.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

In terms of sales, yes compared to the late 00s/early 10s, mainly due to the foreign market being a bigger factor (as well as the decline in western comic book sales) and the loss of 2/3 of the "Big Three" allowing new series to have more of a shot; of which would've failed to become the next big thing at a time when Naruto and Bleach were running just like Toriko did.

In terms of actual quality in the series, however, it's the lowest Jump's ever been at.

Do so many people from foreign countries buy the actual magazine.

Nah, but honestly you are so intelligent you probably must be right on some level.

I was serious.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Do so many people from foreign countries buy the actual magazine.

No, especially not after the US release of it was cancelled years ago. However, Jump would still obtain a decent profit from foreign sales due to holding a percentage of the copyrights to the manga, regardless of territories.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Do so many people from foreign countries buy the actual magazine.

No, especially not after the US release of it was cancelled years ago. However, Jump would still obtain a decent profit from foreign sales due to holding a percentage of the copyrights to the manga, regardless of territories.

Yeah. I meant more as in could it compare in anyway, even as a distant second, to the DragonBall era in-terms of sales/financial success (perhaps even popularity) of the magazine? Even grounds of-course. Probably meaning domestic then.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

As far as domestic goes, there's no comparison, at least in terms of estimating how time will treat it. The era usually classed as Jump's 2nd generation (early/mid 80s to mid 90s) spawned many series that became not just financial hits with dozens of millions to hundreds of millions of sales, but ones with enough of a legacy factor to keep steadily in circulation for decades to come. Whilst many of the series seem to be doing well in terms of sales, the poor writing quality is becoming more evident the more they go on and hype for them is decreasing in equal amount. In the internet age where people can become more aware of a series' quality than ever with a bigger variety of platforms to discuss it, as well as the poor quality of many western franchise instalments making the general audience wisen up more to what they consume (eg. The Last Jedi killing Star Wars as a brand or Game of Thrones Season 8 essentially making it a dead series), it's safe to say most of the ongoing titles will either be berated once they jump the shark or forgotten once they're over. Even the most successful of the new franchises, My Hero Academia, is probably getting close to its final arc from what I've heard and its tankoban never surpass One Piece's. Taking into account the series has 24 tankoban and roughly 24 million sales (coincidentally, an average of 1 million sales per tankoban), it has yet to surpass Sakigake!! Otokojuku, which was somewhat niche even domestically beyond hardcore Jump buffs or HnK fans during Jump's 2nd generation, or Death Note which ran for only half as long. If treating this as a 4th generation of Jump and MHA being the leading series, it'll never reach DB era in sales or legacy, though has arguably surpassed the 1st generation in the former.

There is also the new series from the Naruto author. The sales could be huge.

From what I've heard, the series is already bordering on cancellation and even fans of Naruto that were interested in seeing it hate it, so that's pretty much out of the question.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

What was the second most successful era/generation, if you could tell me?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It's hard to say whether or not the 2nd generation is more popular than the 3rd (late 90s - early 10s) due to the latter housing the likes of One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Hunter X Hunter and Gintama, all of which have surpassed the 50 million sales threshold and the first 3 having surpassed 100 million. Whilst probably not having the legacy factor of the 2nd, some level of it is being seen with MHA being heavily inspired by Naruto and a lot of newer series having some strong similarities to the adventure aspect of One Piece and Hunter X Hunter's first arc within their premise (Made in Abyss, Magi and the aptly named Monster X Monster being some examples).
Whichever one you consider to be the most popular generation of Jump, the other would definitely be the runner up.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Which one of those surpassed DragonBall at sales? Like Naruto didn't surpass DragonBall at the same volumes.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Only One Piece, though Naruto's sales are close to DB. Bleach also has 120 million sales, more than either Hokuto no Ken or JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and almost as many as Slam Dunk, though how much the international market plays in that is debatable.