Kaio-Ken

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It multiplies your power, right?
So, what if Goku said "Kaio-Ken x0.25"?
Would he get weaker?
 

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Double is the minimum that can be used.
 

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Yeah, I think Double is the least you can do. That's the regular Kaio-Ken. Whenever Goku just says Kaio-Ken without any number attached to it, that can just be intererpreted as "Kaio-Ken x2" anyway.
 

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withheldforprivacy said:
In retcon, we can accept Kaioken 1.5x; Goku vs Vegeta fight makes more sense this way.

No we can't. We can accept that DB is not perfect.
 

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Fearless Super said:
withheldforprivacy said:
In retcon, we can accept Kaioken 1.5x; Goku vs Vegeta fight makes more sense this way.

No we can't. We can accept that DB is not perfect.

and that AT is very bad at Maths
 

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KyuubiAhri said:
Fearless Super said:
withheldforprivacy said:
In retcon, we can accept Kaioken 1.5x; Goku vs Vegeta fight makes more sense this way.

No we can't. We can accept that DB is not perfect.

and that AT is very bad at Maths

Indeed, heck the PL purists would rather discredit the Daizenshuu/guidebook numbers [which is probably the closest source we can get from the creator or stuffs] and make their own imaginary numbers. Super showed us power levels and gaps are inconsistent and the only thing we have is ''X is stronger than Y''.
 

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Fearless Super said:
KyuubiAhri said:
Fearless Super said:
No we can't. We can accept that DB is not perfect.

and that AT is very bad at Maths

Indeed, heck the PL purists would rather discredit the Daizenshuu/guidebook numbers [which is probably the closest source we can get from the creator or stuffs] and make their own imaginary numbers. Super showed us power levels and gaps are inconsistent and the only thing we have is ''X is stronger than Y''.

or maybe this


X is weaker than Z. Z fuses with S and becomes R. X is stronger than R

This is what happened when goku overpowered Merged zamasus holy wrath.
 

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KyuubiAhri said:
Fearless Super said:
KyuubiAhri said:
and that AT is very bad at Maths

Indeed, heck the PL purists would rather discredit the Daizenshuu/guidebook numbers [which is probably the closest source we can get from the creator or stuffs] and make their own imaginary numbers. Super showed us power levels and gaps are inconsistent and the only thing we have is ''X is stronger than Y''.

or maybe this


X is weaker than Z. Z fuses with S and becomes R. X is stronger than R

This is what happened when goku overpowered Merged zamasus holy wrath.
The manga has been consistent so far which has the GOAT Toriyama's vision and the anime on the other hand has Toei's vision hence we get those shit.
 

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