"Kid Boo > all" argument

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So, Gamefaqs is dealing with someone who thinks Kid Boo could beat Goku from Super due to statements coming from EoZ.

Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P6.5
Goku: “…But someone besides us and Boo might win.”
Satan: “Hahhahhah, now really! There’s no way that could happen, right?”

Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P12.2-5
Context: Oob is surprised by Goku’s Bukujutsu
Goku: “Oh, I see. You still don’t even know how to fly, huh? …I guess there ain’t no helping it. You haven’t had no teacher, and you probably never even considered things like that. Sorry I bad-mouthed you before. Please forgive me. I just wanted to know your true ability. You’re exactly the person I thought you were. As amazin’ as I expected. But you don’t know how to use your power. This is the first time you’ve fought like this, right? I've got it! From now on I'll live with you at your house and teach you!”

And due to the statements that Super will join EoZ, they think all statements from EoZ must still hold true, despite the fact the manga is outdated by over twenty years. The implication being that Kid Boo would be stronger than whatever Goku comes up with at the end of Super. Dende's statement that Kid Boo is the most formidable opponent Goku fought, the reveal of Dai Kaioshin being stronger than we thought we were, and Kid Boo having his God Ki, aint exactly helping.

Any way to make them see reason?
 

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Is this dude implying Pure Boo is God-level?
 

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Let me guess: it's fucking Luminaire.
 

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So, I guess this guy doesn't seem to understand that characters can get stronger with the right conditions and training, especially one who's natural power without any sort of training was already able to match SS3 Goku, combined with the Daizenshuu saying Oob could become a warrior unlike any seen before through training with Goku?

Good luck seeing him come to his senses.
 

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:punk

Well, it still makes more sense than the theory Goku was the strongest all along in Z but held back until Pure Boo came.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
So, I guess this guy doesn't seem to understand that characters can get stronger with the right conditions and training, especially one who's natural power without any sort of training was already able to match SS3 Goku, combined with the Daizenshuu saying Oob could become a warrior unlike any seen before through training with Goku?

Good luck seeing him come to his senses.

To be fair, we're talking about statements that came before Goku decided to train him, particularly the one on which Goku said Oob might beat them, as well as the comment that he's as amazing as he expected. Ergo Kid Boo > Goku even after 10 years of training...yeah, he's that kind of guy.
 

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Well say that he should at least wait to how they are going to spin the manga's ending before retroactively applying everything that came before end of Z when God of Destructions and such was obviously not thought up when Goku performed those statements.

Might be worth mentioning that Goku stated the SSJG surpasses even a conceivable level that he could think of or something like this, so it was quite obviously that such level was beyond Kid Boo's showcase abilities.
 

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ahill1 said:
Well say that he should at least wait to how they are going to spin the manga's ending before retroactively applying everything that came before end of Z when God of Destructions and such was obviously not thought up when Goku performed those statements.

Been there, done that, to no result. He insists that EoZ from the manga is exactly how Super will join it.

Might be worth mentioning that Goku stated the SSJG surpasses even a conceivable level that he could think of or something like this, so it was quite obviously that such level was beyond Kid Boo's showcase abilities.

Hum, I admit it slipped out of my mind. In which version of BoG did it happen again?
 

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If you're going that route, just bring up every time someone has been said to be the strongest thing around.
 

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ahill1 said:
Well say that he should at least wait to how they are going to spin the manga's ending before retroactively applying everything that came before end of Z when God of Destructions and such was obviously not thought up when Goku performed those statements.

Might be worth mentioning that Goku stated the SSJG surpasses even a conceivable level that he could think of or something like this, so it was quite obviously that such level was beyond Kid Boo's showcase abilities.

But Pure Boo was holding back, he only used his full power to hold and push back the Genki-Dama :donovan3
 

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Keedounan said:
ahill1 said:
Well say that he should at least wait to how they are going to spin the manga's ending before retroactively applying everything that came before end of Z when God of Destructions and such was obviously not thought up when Goku performed those statements.

Been there, done that, to no result. He insists that EoZ from the manga is exactly how Super will join it.

Might be worth mentioning that Goku stated the SSJG surpasses even a conceivable level that he could think of or something like this, so it was quite obviously that such level was beyond Kid Boo's showcase abilities.

Hum, I admit it slipped out of my mind. In which version of BoG did it happen again?
It's surely stated in the manga right after Goku achieves the SSJG. Might be worth checking the movie and the anime as well as there's a high probability it's on all medias.

@GSM Goku would have accounted to what Kid Boo performed against the Genki-Dama as well. Besides, worth adding Goku stated that with Vegetto one blast should be enough to deal with mini Boo, whereas he said fusion wouldn't have been enough against Beerus, all of which cements how wayyyy behind Kid Boo is (Ik you don't believe it, just adding to Keedounan's cause :shc ).
 

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[mention]ahill1[/mention] plus the Genki-Dama being held had nothing to do with power, Goku said he was to tired to throw it properly.
 

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Keedounan said:
Hum, I admit it slipped out of my mind. In which version of BoG did it happen again?
All of them. The movie, anime and manga each feature Goku's statement of "I never imagined such a world existed."
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
@ahill1 plus the Genki-Dama being held had nothing to do with power, Goku said he was to tired to throw it properly.

The troll keed is debating with uses Viz's version of the statement, which has Vegeta say Goku lacks the power, instead of stamina.
 

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Tapion said:
GreatSaiyaman123 said:
@ahill plus the Genki-Dama being held had nothing to do with power, Goku said he was to tired to throw it properly.

The troll keed is debating with uses Viz's version of the statement, which has Vegeta say Goku lacks the power, instead of stamina.

In this case, troll keed should be banned for life from every forum.

But for real, the statement is still made in the context of Goku not firing it properly nonetheless, and all it took was Goku’s revitalization.
 

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Yeah, all they hammered on was how the unleasher of the Genki-Dama hadn't the stamina needed to unleash it, not how amazing Kid Boo was to stop being crushed by the huge ball, which would have been stated if Kid Boo were holding back by that much. Since the emphasis wasn't put on him and rather on the performer of such attack, the "Kid Boo revealed way more power against the GD" falls flat.
 
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