King Chappa vs Yamcha, Krillen

p123

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This has been a hot debate as of late, guys post your quotes of why you think they are vastly superior and when I get home I'll post all the quotes going against.
 

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Krillin:

During the fight against Chaozu

Chapter: 121, P7.2
Tenshinhan: “What kind of guy is he?...To think that he’d dodge the Dodonpa in that instant, and even launch an attack.â€￾

Chapter: 121, P14.5
Kame-sennin: “Magnificent…Kuririn’s matured one or two stages…â€￾

After Goku's fight against Pamput

Chapter: 122, P13.3-7
Kame-sennin: “Panput was truly a fearsomely skilled master, but only when seen from an ordinary level…To your eyes, however, he didn’t look like anything special…That shows just how much you two have acquired strength that surpasses the ordinary.â€￾
Kuririn: “But…Yamcha lost, and he was about as good as me. And even I had a really tough fight against that runt.â€￾
Kame-sennin: “There’s no helping that. It’s because your opponents were also super masters who have surpassed the ordinary.â€￾

Against Goku

Chapter: 125, P3.3
Context: said before he fights Goku
Kuririn: “I’ve trained really hard since then too…I can definitely win! I’m gonna do this!â€￾

Chapter: 125, P10.4-5
Kuririn: “You’re as fast I’d expect…! When’d you circle behind me?!â€￾
Goku: “I’m impressed that you managed to dodge that, Kuririn…!â€￾

Chapter: 126, P4.1-2
Goku: “Amazin’! You’ve gotten better!â€￾
Kuririn: Hihhih! Are you surprised?â€￾
Goku: “I’ve never had such a fun fight! I’m really excited!â€￾

Yamcha:

Chapter: 117, P7.3-5, 8.1
Context: The first round of the 22nd tournament began with a ferocious exchange of blows!
Kuririn: “Wh-whoa…!â€￾
Goku: “They’re both amazing--!â€￾
Announcer: “Wh-wh-what happened?!! All that action…and so fast…!!!â€￾
Yamcha (thinking): “I…I never imagined he’d be so good…â€￾
Tenshinhan (thinking): “Interesting… Evidently he wasn’t just full of hot air after all… It’s been some time since I encountered such formidable resistance…â€￾


What grabs me the most is the fact that Goku gives praise for something he thought Krillin couldn't dodge. At some point Krillin also says Yamcha is about even with him.
 

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I take Tien's quote to be about his skills, Krillen's defense and counter there was very good.

Roshi is just saying Krillen 22nd > Krillen 21st

Krillen has to be lying, no way he thinks he can really win. I have quotes for that later. I consider this false bravado. Dabura calling Gohan trash, Vegeta claiming he will win the Cell Game and so on.

What I see is that they are much closer to his initial power than Chappa was. They can put up a fight while Chappa can't. And I think it's a lot of hob knobbing as well. I have to get quotes later for you but if anyone wants to put the counter quotes in that's be great.
 

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Krillin and Yamcha win with moderate diff at best. They were able to hold their own against a toying around Match level Goku (or equivalent) while said Goku made a fool of Chappa.
 

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-Goku said he toyed with Chappa. Later, when he's about to fight Krillin, he declares he'll go ''full tilt''. Even
though that turned out to be a lie, it indicates he took Krillin more seriously than Chappa. So, Goku (initial vs
Krillin)>Goku (vs Chappa)
-The others fearing Chappa holds as much value as them fearing Taopaipai

The above is all i need
 

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