Kuririn closer to 1st form Freeza than Piccolo was to initial final Freeza?

[ahill1]

Something interesting I was thinking in.

As we all know Vegeta considered Kurirrin to be helpful against a potentially > 530k being, highlighting the earthling's power as being steadily growing. He seemed to consider them as a gang when considering their upcoming battle, not solely himself as a warrior. Once he attained his last power up Zenkai though, he brushed off any team work possibility and rather went at Freeza alone. While one can argue he was overconfident due to believing himself to be a SSJ, when Goku recovered and had his initial base power evenly matched to that suppressed Freeza, Piccolo believed them all, himself included, were only collateral damage to Goku and stayed away... if Piccolo couldn't help out base Goku against initial Freeza while Kuririn was considered as a team group to gang up on 1st form Freeza, couldn't this indicate that proportionally wise Kuririn is more relevant to 1st form Freeza than Piccolo was to base Goku and initial final form Freeza?

If we solidily estimate base Goku and that Freeza to be at 5,000,000 (seems to be the go-to spot for most of the ones who ignore Daizenshuu), then Piccolo would make up to almost a third of that power... leaving Kuririn at the 200,000 spot at the very least.

 

[SSJ2]

Piccolo himself states that he won't be of any help as soon as Freeza transformed.

So yes, I'd say that 1st Freeza vs Krillin is a smaller gap than 4th Freeza vs Piccolo.

As you touched upon, Vegeta's attitude had changed dramatically between both of these fights. I think even if Goku appeared once Freeza transformed, Vegeta still would have rejected his help. He was so caught up in his delusion about being a Super Saiyan that he was blind to the facts.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Vegeta believed himself to be a Super Saiyan against final form Freeza, while he thought only immortality would help him beat 1st form Freeza. It has more to do with Vegeta’s pride than power differences, I’d say.

 

[SSJ2]

That's not really true. Vegeta was confident the group could beat 1st Form Freeza without immortality being a factor.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Vegeta was pretty desperate about the idea of gaining immortality as the only thing that would beat Freeza prior to the Grand Elder dying, so I'd place doubt in Vegeta being fully confident in being able to win 3-on-1. You could assume he only became aware of how much he'd increased in power after the nap once Freeza arrived, but that seems like a bit of a stretch.
Moreover, you have Gohan and Kuririn only saying they might manage something against 1st form Freeza, adding further doubt to Vegeta's confidence being more than him making the best out of a bad situation.

As for the OP, I wouldn't say this comparison could be used as a way to determine Kuririn's battle power when the gaps to determine relevancy both before, during and after battle powers were a central part of the plot were never consistent nor are battle powers an accurate determination of tiers. For example, you have a fatigued 23rd TB Piccolo saying everyone combined other than Goku couldn't beat him or despite there at best being only a few dozen points of battle power between him and Kami, yet Goku and Piccolo held some belief in a possibility of overcoming Raditz together. Furthermore, Piccolo going from Small Country level to Moon/Small Planet level between the 23rd TB and the start of Z, despite only amounting to less than 100 points of battle power, is a far greater jump in tiers than some of the several-fold boosts in battle power within the Saiyan/Freeza Arcs. Tl;dr, battle powers aren't a consistent system to judge.