Mecha Frieza

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Did you like the story of Frieza surviving the Planet Namek explosion and wasn't killed by Goku? I think he should've died in Namek IMO. What do you guys think?
 

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Mecha frieza cheapened Frieza by a whole lot, only existing to make Trunks look like a badass and then Trunks gets ragdolled by a second set of Androids.

The more you think about it the more piss poor the writing is in the cell saga. Luckily there's so many good fights it really doesn't matter.
 

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No. Having Freeza return immediately after his defeat left little breathing space between the events and having him immediately killed by a new character cheapened him by turning his character into just a benchmark. The impending doom of his arrival only to be killed by Trunks did make for the most exciting opening to any arc in the series, but it doesn't hold up when looked at outside of such a vacuum when the set up for the new threats ends up being woefully underwhelming with the Artificial Humans being bland characters and Trunks not being anything of necessity to do for the rest of the arc to warrant him killing Freeza to be worthwhile and the opening act just becomes hollow spectacle.

Also, adding Cold did somewhat damage Freeza's character. It is funny to see Freeza calling him "papa" but after the image he set on Namek, seeing him being revealed to be a spoiled child does weaken the image he set as does the reveal that they have a clan that could potentially have many other powerful beings in it. Freeza's spoilt nature would've been an interesting character trait had we been given more of a time to get the perspective of how his pampered nature lead to his current personality or if it got some focus in Super, but unfortunately it was just something brought up for a few chapters before both were killed off.
 

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Freeza should have stayed dead. Bringing characters, especially villains, back to life after their climactic battle with the main protagonist almost never works well and usually serves to just damage that villain.
 

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Pyro said:
Freeza should have stayed dead. Bringing characters, especially villains, back to life after their climactic battle with the main protagonist almost never works well and usually serves to just damage that villain.

:rape1 was the only time this ever worked in fiction
 

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theallpowerfulpuipui said:
Pyro said:
Freeza should have stayed dead. Bringing characters, especially villains, back to life after their climactic battle with the main protagonist almost never works well and usually serves to just damage that villain.

:rape1 was the only time this ever worked in fiction

Arguably.
 

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Freeza was not needed for the writer to show the new enemies' strength. Trunks could have merely displayed his SSJ transformation to Goku.
 

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theallpowerfulpuipui said:
:rape1 was the only time this ever worked in fiction
If anything, it damaged his characterisation. Trying to meld him into the main cast despite him being unapologetic for his crimes made it feel like :troll wasn't addressing the massive elephant in the room and even though his actions in the Cell Arc were more consistent than the rest of the cast were being in that arc, it was still a regression of all the development he had in the Freeza Arc. Boo Arc Vegeta was slightly better due to having some actual change towards the end, though having a few new aspects of his personality come as the result of a timeskip was poor writing and his reason for going Majin was even more petty than that for letting Cell become Perfect.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
theallpowerfulpuipui said:
:rape1 was the only time this ever worked in fiction
If anything, it damaged his characterisation. Trying to meld him into the main cast despite him being unapologetic for his crimes made it feel like :troll wasn't addressing the massive elephant in the room and even though his actions in the Cell Arc were more consistent than the rest of the cast were being in that arc, it was still a regression of all the development he had in the Freeza Arc. Boo Arc Vegeta was slightly better due to having some actual change towards the end, though having a few new aspects of his personality come as the result of a timeskip was poor writing and his reason for going Majin was even more petty than that for letting Cell become Perfect.
In the Frieza saga when he was still a villain trying to get his immortality, and switched allegiances due to being raised by Frieza (thus evil) was smart writing that disappeared outright from dragon ball.
 
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