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I'm a bit rusty on M8, but did either of the two seem more impressive than eachother?
Movie 8 Gohan vs. Movie 8 Piccolo
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Piccolo arguably did better since Gohan was knocked out by his face being dragged against the side of a building and then had a Ki blast thrown at him. Piccolo had his face hit by Broly's palm, got headbutted, kicked twice and then had what looked like the same Ki blast thrown at him and was still ready to fight.
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Gohan could potentially be weaker than Piccolo here for sure. This movie seems to suggest that Gohan has more or less caught up whereas he was the top dog in the manga. It's a tough call to make, either way should be fine.
Goku > Vegeta > Trunks should be the standard though. Piccolo and Gohan are interchangeable and all in all, the powers should all be very close to each other for all of the characters.
Goku > Vegeta > Trunks should be the standard though. Piccolo and Gohan are interchangeable and all in all, the powers should all be very close to each other for all of the characters.
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Gohan was relieved to see Piccolo, who stepped in and basically took over the bulk of the work with Goku. If Piccolo was his usual weak sauce, I don't think he would have been very welcomed into that battle, aside from delivering a senzu or something. He would have been hanging with Oolong and Drunk Roshi.
I take Piccolo here, having a power advantage by a small margin.
I take Piccolo here, having a power advantage by a small margin.
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Me? I've heard theories, but not yours in particular.p123 said:
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Ok so Movie 8 takes place after these events occur.
Instead of Vegeta allowing Cell to achieve his final form he decides to kill him. Whether it be of his own conscious or Trunks convinces him to, Vegeta most likely killed Cell in this timeline. Vegeta seems more happy and more at ease with himself than many other times.
The celebration going on seems to be rejoicing something, perhaps Earth being saved?
After Vegeta kills Cell they all return to the Lookout and Trunks tells them all what happened. After a while, they realize Goku and Gohan are still training. They go and tell Goku what happened and Goku decides to leave the room considering they don't absolutely need it anymore. Remember how Goku has not used the ROSAT unless it was absolutely dire times.
Goku and Gohan in this timeline are at a completely different power level than they were in the manga had they completed their training.
Right before Paragus arrives, Piccolo gets fed up with everyone else surpassing the Super Namek and decides he wants to catch up just out of pride. That explains why Piccolo wasn't around initially as well.
After they all leave, Popo gets Piccolo and informs his of the Legendary Super Saiyan cutting his ROSAT training short as well.
So essentially we have powers being all around Stage 2 Vegeta and Trunks levels and Piccolo, Gohan and Goku having their training cut short compared to the manga due to Cell being defeated and the arrival of the Legendary Super Saiyan.
Instead of Vegeta allowing Cell to achieve his final form he decides to kill him. Whether it be of his own conscious or Trunks convinces him to, Vegeta most likely killed Cell in this timeline. Vegeta seems more happy and more at ease with himself than many other times.
The celebration going on seems to be rejoicing something, perhaps Earth being saved?
After Vegeta kills Cell they all return to the Lookout and Trunks tells them all what happened. After a while, they realize Goku and Gohan are still training. They go and tell Goku what happened and Goku decides to leave the room considering they don't absolutely need it anymore. Remember how Goku has not used the ROSAT unless it was absolutely dire times.
Goku and Gohan in this timeline are at a completely different power level than they were in the manga had they completed their training.
Right before Paragus arrives, Piccolo gets fed up with everyone else surpassing the Super Namek and decides he wants to catch up just out of pride. That explains why Piccolo wasn't around initially as well.
After they all leave, Popo gets Piccolo and informs his of the Legendary Super Saiyan cutting his ROSAT training short as well.
So essentially we have powers being all around Stage 2 Vegeta and Trunks levels and Piccolo, Gohan and Goku having their training cut short compared to the manga due to Cell being defeated and the arrival of the Legendary Super Saiyan.
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Yeah that's as good an explenation as any. Them leaving the RoSaT early is the only real way to justify why the battle powers are so mixed up compared to the Cell Saga. I have always had a soft spot for that theory, or rather, theories of similar consequence.
Not only that, but if Cell were still alive, I have a hard time believing he would let the Z Fighters leave Earth when he is expecting the Cell Games to occure any day now.
Not only that, but if Cell were still alive, I have a hard time believing he would let the Z Fighters leave Earth when he is expecting the Cell Games to occure any day now.
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Exactly. It's the best one I've ever come up with. Now, the only issue is, that after Movie 8, that timeline seems to still go down the Cell Games Road. So basically they all get back to Earth after Broly's defeat and lo and behold, Cell was not dead, he had been regenerating slowly from a single cell and had been hiding from the Z fighters. As soon as he felt them leave he went after Android 18 and then he started the whole Cell Games where he went on camera and all of that.
You could even have a clip of Popo sending Piccolo off to go chase after the Legendary Super Saiyan and Popo picking up on Cell's ki signature and going crazy.
This is as good as it gets, I consider this an official explanation of how to fit Broly into the manga timeline.
You could even have a clip of Popo sending Piccolo off to go chase after the Legendary Super Saiyan and Popo picking up on Cell's ki signature and going crazy.
This is as good as it gets, I consider this an official explanation of how to fit Broly into the manga timeline.
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Gohan's power is unknown yet when the movie was released so he could be weaker than Piccolo.
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Gohan got one shotted twice while Piccolo took an assault from Broly as well as a ki blast and immediately got right back up and dragged Vegeta to the battlefield. I think Piccolo's got this.
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So I watched this fight again, and I have some things to add. Although my opinion on the fight remains the same, I just want to drop an observation. From what I've seen, Piccolo has a good shot of winning this.
When Broli first goes LSSJ, most of his early attacks are aimed at Gohan. Each time, Goku stepps in to save his son. This happens back to back to back to back. A total of four times in a row, Gohan is protected from Broli.
Broli's first blast as an LSSJ goes directly at Gohan. Goku pushes his son out of the way. Broli charges them, Goku grabs Gohan and turns his back to it and acts like a shield. While being chased by Broli, Goku drags Gohan by the arm, flying out of reach from the raining spam of ki blasts. They are both in base form through out this ordeal.
This is a far cry from the Goku who refused to allow anyone to step in for Gohan during the Cell Games. Also, I don't ever recall Goku going through such a continuous effort to keep Gohan out of harms way. Maybe once or twice, but not a full on getaway for an extended period of time.
Either Broli is enormously above Cell or this Gohan is nowhere near his Cell Games self. In fact, Gohan is the only Z Fighter that needed constant saving in M8. If you count Piccolo stepping in, Gohan is rescued from at least five different attacks. In my humble opinion, even SSJ Gohan is clearly the weakest of the group who challenged Roshi.
When Broli first goes LSSJ, most of his early attacks are aimed at Gohan. Each time, Goku stepps in to save his son. This happens back to back to back to back. A total of four times in a row, Gohan is protected from Broli.
Broli's first blast as an LSSJ goes directly at Gohan. Goku pushes his son out of the way. Broli charges them, Goku grabs Gohan and turns his back to it and acts like a shield. While being chased by Broli, Goku drags Gohan by the arm, flying out of reach from the raining spam of ki blasts. They are both in base form through out this ordeal.
This is a far cry from the Goku who refused to allow anyone to step in for Gohan during the Cell Games. Also, I don't ever recall Goku going through such a continuous effort to keep Gohan out of harms way. Maybe once or twice, but not a full on getaway for an extended period of time.
Either Broli is enormously above Cell or this Gohan is nowhere near his Cell Games self. In fact, Gohan is the only Z Fighter that needed constant saving in M8. If you count Piccolo stepping in, Gohan is rescued from at least five different attacks. In my humble opinion, even SSJ Gohan is clearly the weakest of the group who challenged Roshi.
