Mr. 2 vs Arlong

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Mr. 2 probably stomps. Luffy's destructive feats in Alabasta compared to those in East Blue suggests a huge boost from his battles in the Grand Line and the same should apply for Zoro and Sanji. Even being near water probably wouldn't do much for Arlong unless he can drag Bentham into it.
 

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I don't see much reason for Sanji to have powered up that much yet. He probably surpassed that level (by a lot) after Alabasta. Therefore 2 loses.
 

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[mention]Captain Cadaver[/mention] were the SHC ever challenged in the Grand Line between Arlong and Alabasta?
 

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Not to the extent of, say, in Alabasta or Thriller Bark, though some enemies like Mr. 3 did prove difficult. Zoro also suffered a great amount of physical injury from both his attempt at dismembering his leg in Little Garden and the cold on Drum Island, yet he was still at best equal to Luffy by the time of Alabasta and Sanji wasn't suggested to be lagging far behind them. It seems the Monster Trio simply got far stronger from experience, not to mention Zoro's statement in Enies Lobby seemed to imply they got stronger from each of the islands they journeyed to rather than just the 2 they were truly challenged on.
 

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Forgot about Zoro = Luffy at Whisky Peak. I'd say 2 beats Arlong based on this alone.
 

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Maybe Sanji was considerably below Zoro at that point tho? Idk.
 

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There's no doubt that he is. Zoro defeated Mr. 1 whereas Sanji struggled against 2. There was clearly a huge gap in power between 1 and 2. Regardless, I think Zoro/Luffy were so much stronger than Arlong at that point that the gap between Sanji/Arlong would still be large enough for Mr. 2 to win.
 

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ahill1 said:
Maybe Sanji was considerably below Zoro at that point tho? Idk.
Sanji is still treat as within their league during Alabasta (this arc in fact being the first in which their status as the "Monster Trio" was coined), so even if lagging behind Zoro, it wouldn't be by a huge amount.

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There's no doubt that he is. Zoro defeated Mr. 1 whereas Sanji struggled against 2. There was clearly a huge gap in power between 1 and 2.
Zoro had far from an easy time defeating Mr. 1 though. Sanji also seemed to have quite the solid advantage over Mr. 2 until he made Sanji go into simp mode by copying Nami's face as well as increasing his attack potency using his swan shoes.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Zoro had far from an easy time defeating Mr. 1 though. Sanji also seemed to have quite the solid advantage over Mr. 2 until he made Sanji go into simp mode by copying Nami's face as well as increasing his attack potency using his swan shoes.
I didn't say that he did, but he still surpassed him by the end of the fight. Sanjir was still weak enough to be seriously roughed up by the end of the fight regardless of Mr.2's cheap tactics. He was still strong enough to deal significant damage to Sanji and was also strong enough to cancel out his kicks iirc. Mr. 1 was treated as being in a different league from the rest of the officers.
 
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