Mutaito vs Drum

[ahill1]

Who wins?

 

[Animelover5487]

Drum wrecks.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Drum wrecks.

 

[ahill1]

I dunno. Piccolo Daimao was most likely young when he fought Mutaito, since he wanted to regain the power he had back then, implying he got older while stuck in that jug. That's also implied by Piccolo Daimao's face, which was showed when Mutaito was performing the Mafû-Ba, which resembles the one he had while young. Said that, his childrens who he conjured should be as powerful as Drum, even more when they were created to spread chaos and terror:
http://mangalife.us/read-online/Dragon-Ball-chapter-135.html

Yet, Muten Roshi implied his master had a direct confront with Piccolo Daimao, which wouldn't be possible if they didn't get past to his childrens. We saw how Tenshinhan wanted to fight Piccolo, who just didn't consider him worth enough and spawned someone to deal with him. Even if assuming Mutaito hadn't a direct confront with Piccolo and was initially just disposed by his minions, Mutaito stucking Daimao with the Mafû-Ba wouldn't really have saved the world if the remaining warriors (Roshi and Tsuru) weren't strong enough to deal with Piccolo's childrens.

Also, old Piccolo Daimao said, after one of his childrens being murdered, something like "to think there's somebody in this world capable of killing one of my creations", implying in the past there was somebody capable of such.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I dunno. Piccolo Daimao was most likely young when he fought Mutaito, since he wanted to regain the power he had back then, implying he got older while stuck in that jug. That's also implied by Piccolo Daimao's face, which was showed when Mutaito was performing the Mafû-Ba, which resembles the one he had while young. Said that, his childrens who he conjured should be as powerful as Drum, even more when they were created to spread chaos and terror:
http://mangalife.us/read-online/Dragon-Ball-chapter-135.html

Yet, Muten Roshi implied his master had a direct confront with Piccolo Daimao, which wouldn't be possible if they didn't get past to his childrens. We saw how Tenshinhan wanted to fight Piccolo, who just didn't consider him worth enough and spawned someone to deal with him. Even if assuming Mutaito hadn't a direct confront with Piccolo and was initially just disposed by his minions, Mutaito stucking Daimao with the Mafû-Ba wouldn't really have saved the world if the remaining warriors (Roshi and Tsuru) weren't strong enough to deal with Piccolo's childrens.

Also, old Piccolo Daimao said, after one of his childrens being murdered, something like "to think there's somebody in this world capable of killing one of my creations", implying in the past there was somebody capable of such.

That's quite an interesting thought actually, but Piccolo-Daimao also thought Drum could easily defeat Goku who was more powerful than Master-Mutaito, so probably not.

But still, very interesting perspective there.

 

[DBZAOTA482]

Mutaito gets raped hard. Mutaito, for all all intents and purposes, wasn't much stronger than 22nd Budokai Goku and we already know how well an opponent on that Goku's level would fare against Drum.

 

[ahill1]

I dunno. Piccolo Daimao was most likely young when he fought Mutaito, since he wanted to regain the power he had back then, implying he got older while stuck in that jug. That's also implied by Piccolo Daimao's face, which was showed when Mutaito was performing the Mafû-Ba, which resembles the one he had while young. Said that, his childrens who he conjured should be as powerful as Drum, even more when they were created to spread chaos and terror:
http://mangalife.us/read-online/Dragon-Ball-chapter-135.html

Yet, Muten Roshi implied his master had a direct confront with Piccolo Daimao, which wouldn't be possible if they didn't get past to his childrens. We saw how Tenshinhan wanted to fight Piccolo, who just didn't consider him worth enough and spawned someone to deal with him. Even if assuming Mutaito hadn't a direct confront with Piccolo and was initially just disposed by his minions, Mutaito stucking Daimao with the Mafû-Ba wouldn't really have saved the world if the remaining warriors (Roshi and Tsuru) weren't strong enough to deal with Piccolo's childrens.

Also, old Piccolo Daimao said, after one of his childrens being murdered, something like "to think there's somebody in this world capable of killing one of my creations", implying in the past there was somebody capable of such.

That's quite an interesting thought actually, but Piccolo-Daimao also thought Drum could easily defeat Goku who was more powerful than Master-Mutaito, so probably not.

But still, very interesting perspective there.

Initially, when Goku knocks Piccolo Daimao down, Piccolo says "to think there's somebody in this world who could knock my back to the ground", which does seem a statement related to the new era of fighters imo.

The statement who could really hurt this is Piccolo stating Goku is as far as a human could go, but I still don't think it's too difficult to think he would be comparing him to the new generation of humans, like "probably as far as a human could go in this new generation". Kind of a stretch since Piccolo didn't mention "of this generation", but we have to consider before that Tambourine already said something like the fighters of this era not being so fearsome, implying the fighters of this current era are weak compared to the one where Piccolo spreaded his reign of terror.

 

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-Mutaito<Post 22nd Goku
-Young Piccolo stated Drum could kill Post 22nd Goku

Duuh

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I dunno. Piccolo Daimao was most likely young when he fought Mutaito, since he wanted to regain the power he had back then, implying he got older while stuck in that jug. That's also implied by Piccolo Daimao's face, which was showed when Mutaito was performing the Mafû-Ba, which resembles the one he had while young. Said that, his childrens who he conjured should be as powerful as Drum, even more when they were created to spread chaos and terror:
http://mangalife.us/read-online/Dragon-Ball-chapter-135.html

Yet, Muten Roshi implied his master had a direct confront with Piccolo Daimao, which wouldn't be possible if they didn't get past to his childrens. We saw how Tenshinhan wanted to fight Piccolo, who just didn't consider him worth enough and spawned someone to deal with him. Even if assuming Mutaito hadn't a direct confront with Piccolo and was initially just disposed by his minions, Mutaito stucking Daimao with the Mafû-Ba wouldn't really have saved the world if the remaining warriors (Roshi and Tsuru) weren't strong enough to deal with Piccolo's childrens.

Also, old Piccolo Daimao said, after one of his childrens being murdered, something like "to think there's somebody in this world capable of killing one of my creations", implying in the past there was somebody capable of such.

That's quite an interesting thought actually, but Piccolo-Daimao also thought Drum could easily defeat Goku who was more powerful than Master-Mutaito, so probably not.

But still, very interesting perspective there.

Initially, when Goku knocks Piccolo Daimao down, Piccolo says "to think there's somebody in this world who could knock my back to the ground", which does seem a statement related to the new era of fighters imo.

The statement who could really hurt this is Piccolo stating Goku is as far as a human could go, but I still don't think it's too difficult to think he would be comparing him to the new generation of humans, like "probably as far as a human could go in this new generation". Kind of a stretch since Piccolo didn't mention "of this generation", but we have to consider before that Tambourine already said something like the fighters of this era not being so fearsome, implying the fighters of this current era are weak compared to the one where Piccolo spreaded his reign of terror.

In what way does that comment seem like it only refers to the new gen.? I don't really see it.

 

[ahill1]

Don't you think the "in this world" implies it? Yeah, you could be right since "world" does seem like a more abrangent concept.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Don't you think the "in this world" implies it? Yeah, you could be right since "world" does seem like a more abrangen concept.

Yeah, I'd think this world would just mean this world. So basically anyone in existence (bar Kami and Mr. Popo 2 2 2 ).

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Drum stomps. Drum > Post 22nd Goku > Mutaito

ahill's viewpoint is interesting, but I doubt that Toriyama thought that deeply into it. I'm not sure if the manga even shows Daimao creating minions at that point, as I doubt he needed them to destroy the world

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Also, old Piccolo Daimao said, after one of his childrens being murdered, something like "to think there's somebody in this world capable of killing one of my creations", implying in the past there was somebody capable of such.

If anything, that implies such a feat had never been accomplished before. With that in mind, Drum >/>> Goku (VS Tambourine/Old Daimao) > Mutaito.

 

[Papasmurf]

Drum stomps. Drum > Post 22nd Goku > Mutaito

ahill's viewpoint is interesting, but I doubt that Toriyama thought that deeply into it. I'm not sure if the manga even shows Daimao creating minions at that point, as I doubt he needed them to destroy the world

Roshi mentions Daimao creating a horde of monsters from within himself

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Drum with ease.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Piccolo could decide how much power he'd give his spawns, depending on how strong he expected the opponents to be.
In the distant past, he expected no one as strong as Mutaito to show up, so those spawns could be weaker than Drum.

 

[ahill1]

Also, old Piccolo Daimao said, after one of his childrens being murdered, something like "to think there's somebody in this world capable of killing one of my creations", implying in the past there was somebody capable of such.

If anything, that implies such a feat had never been accomplished before. With that in mind, Drum >/>> Goku (VS Tambourine/Old Daimao) > Mutaito.

My bad, he mentioned "in this age" rather than "in this world". This implies someone of another age was also capable of this imo.